Middle class by city...how they rank

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    What is middle class in Long Island, New York, the United States?
    Updated April 5, 2015 5:33 PM
    By NEWSDAY.COM

    How much do you need to make to be middle class on Long Island? What about the United States? A recent Planet Money report on NPR broke out how much it costs to be considered middle class in major cities in the United States. The U.S. median household income was $64,000, as of a 2013 study conducted by the Census Bureau; IPUMS USA and the University of Minnesota. Here is a look at what the median income is in major markets, including New York. Newsday added the median household income for Nassau County and Suffolk County to compare the Long Island region to the rest of the nation. The study was done using the Census Bureau's 2013 American Community Survey.

    Detroit -- $30,000
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    To have median middle class income in Detroit, the bar is low, at $30,000, when compared to many other regions. A median household income of $59,000 places a family above 75 percent of Detroit residents. In this July 18, 2013 photo, the Detroit skyline rises behind a monument known as "The Fist," a tribute to boxer Joe Louis.

    Cleveland -- $32,000
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    Cleveland Cavaliers forward LeBron James came home to Ohio after four years in much more expensive Miami. The median household income in Cleveland is $32,000. At $58,000, a family is better off than 75 percent of Cleveland. This game was Feb. 22, 2015.

    Miami -- $36,000
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    Speaking of Miami and LeBron James, Miami's median household income is $36,000, which isn't much different than Cleveland's. But the jump to the top quarter is higher -- at $73,000. The skyline on Aug. 6, 2010.

    St. Louis -- $42,000
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    The median household income in St. Louis is $42,000, and $78,000 will push a family to the top quarter.

    Philadelphia -- $43,000
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    Here is a stunning photo of the Philadelphia skyline on June 2, 2011. To be middle class, a family needs the median income of $43,000. Like most East Coast cities, it will cost a bit to get to the top 25 percent. In Philadelphia, that's $83,000.

    New Orleans -- $48,000
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    A ferry, bottom right, heads out across the Mississippi River from downtown New Orleans to Algiers Point. The New Orleans median household income is $48,000. To move to the top quarter it will cost far more -- $98,000.

    Phoenix -- $50,000
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    The sunset on Jan. 31, 2008, frames the skyline in Phoenix, where the median household income is $50,000. A $90,000 household income will place a family in the top quarter.

    Baltimore -- $50,000
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    The Baltimore median household income is $50,000. Households in the top quarter make at least $90,000. This is the harbor on Feb. 25, 2012.

    Los Angeles -- $52,000
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    In Los Angeles, the median household income is $52,000. To make it to the top 25 percent, you will have to hit six figures -- $100,000. This sunset was on Jan. 21. 2011.

    Chicago -- $54,000
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    Chicago, called "city of the big shoulders" by the poet Carl Sandburg, has a median household income of $54,000. At $101,000, a household can consider itself in the top 25 percent. This is the museum district near Soldier Field on Aug. 11, 2012.

    Pittsburgh -- $55,000
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    Western Pennsylvania's city has a median household income of $55,000. The top 25 percent make at least $98,000. This dusk in 1987 across from Point State Park where three rivers -- the Allegheny, the Monongahela and the Ohio -- converge.

    New York City -- $57,000
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    New York City's median annual household income is $57,000. No surprise. To be rich in New York, you need $109,000 annually.

    Boston -- $60,000
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    Boston, another wealthy Northeastern city, has an annual median household income of $60,000. To be in the top 25 percent, a household needs $117,000.

    Dallas -- $69,000
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    The Dallas skyline reflects in the Trinity River on Jan. 26, 2012. To be middle class in this city, it takes an annual median household income of $69,000. It's $115,000 to be in the top 25 percent.

    Washington -- $71,000
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    Our Nation's Capital is an expensive place. The annual median income is $71,000. To be in the top quarter, it's $160,000.

    Portland - $72,000
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    The Portland median household income is $72,000, while the top 25 percent are at $117,000.

    Suffolk County -- $87,763
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    Suffolk County's median household income was $87,763, according to the 2013 American Community Survey.

    San Francisco -- $96,000
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    It won't be easy to make ends meet in San Francisco, where the annual median household income is $96,000. With $171,000 in annual income, a household is in the top 25 percent. This is Alamo Square Park on Oct. 2, 2010.
     
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    Nassau County -- $97,690
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    Nassau County's median household income is $97,690, according to the 2013 American Community Survey. This is Route 25A in Laurel Hollow in March 2015.

    Seattle -- $102,000
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    Seattle's annual median household income is a staggering $102,000, while the top 25 percent are taking home $171,000. This is the city skyline on July 26, 2011 from Kerry Park on Queen Anne Hill.

    San Jose -- $103,000
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    San Jose's annual median household income is $103,000, according to Metropolitan Statistical Area numbers referenced by Planet Money.
     
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    San Jose: close enough to San francisco... Far enough away from oakland
     
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    I call bullshit. It is a LOT more expensive to live in Nassau County, NY than the list suggests. I live in Nassau County. My home is small by Nassau standards - my lot is 40 x 122 and by law, my home cannot occupy more than 60% of my lot. With two full time jobs, our household income is about $200K. Sounds like a lot, right? After federal, state, county and village taxes, plus taxes levied by the local school district, plus contributions to our retirement funds (on which I'm behind given my age) we're lucky to come home with 55-57% of that. Then you factor in the costs of having a family in Nassau - the day camps, the food bills, the clothes, medical bills, etc., the extra costs that the school system sneaks in (extra school supplies for special projects, money for school trips, et al), and house repairs (washing machine, dryers and refrigerators break down a lot, plus there are additional costs related to living in a house built in 1925) and money ends up being very tight. I scrimp on myself for the sake of the kids - I buy one new suit and one new pair of shoes per year, maybe two of each if the weather was bad. We have no car payments, as we have older cars that have already been paid off (a beat-up 2003 Honda minivan and a 2008 Toyota) and I have zero credit card debt as I cut up my last one years ago. I'd say to be wealthy in Nassau County if you have a mortgage and a family, you need to earn $500K as a family. Thank God porn is still free.
     
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    OK......I have lived anywhere I have wanted to......Not because I make a bajillion dollars.....But I am proficient in three in demand trades.....
    With histories in each.....I never saw the sense in living in an area that had mob like tax rates....Hello North east......Or State income taxes....
    Which is why I've lived in Florida, Texas, Tennessee.....Nevada is too dry for me....And something you left out....
    The northeastern mind set that your owed something special ie. Tips for doing your everyday fucking job that your paid to do......
    How much a year does that cost you?
     
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    This is exactly why i recently got the fuck out of there...Fuckin crooks, mismanagement by local gov't, traffic beyond belief, potholes and 2 seasons, winter and construction
     
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    Amen :pray:
     
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    Agree on all counts except the two seasons are winter and humidity. Believe me, I'd love to move to Florida. A friend of mine just moved to Boynton Beach and another moved to Boca. They're living in fucking mansions while I'm squeezed into a shoebox. Better yet, I'd move to Scottsdale, AZ - the desert air is better for my asthma and I hear it's nice there.
     
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    I wish housing was cheaper. My parents mortgage to buy land and build a 4 bedroom house is cheaper than my rent.
     
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    To be rich in New York, you need $109,000 annually.????

    Not even fn close
     
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    You mentioned states that have no income taxes. The problem with those states is high taxes on property, perhaps sales taxes and other taxes. Texas, for example, has pretty high property tax but no income tax. I would rather live in a state that has an income tax and low property taxes. I can AVOID (not evade) income taxes, but I cannot avoid property tax. It does not matter if you buy or rent, you will be paying a property tax directly or indirectly.
     
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    Ha, I think they're painting "suburbs" with too broad a brush. For instance, for a bunch of years I lived in an outer suburb in in the rolling hills of Ventura County, maybe 50 miles away from LA and you couldn't come close to living there for $52k/yr. However, if you would have picked some of the nearby 'burbs like Paramount, Pacoima, Montebello, Inglewood, etc, that annual income would be very doable. The LA area is so diverse, as I know many others are that this really is a meaningless analysis.
     
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    Maybe it means $109K after taxes and expenses. If it doesn't, then it's just flat out bullshit.
     
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    They never do it that way
    It is pure BS

    I know people that make that much that have roommates
     
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    Maybe I don't know what middle class means anymore, but these numbers seem way off.
     
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    Damn straight. Looking Nassau-fly aint cheap.