Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by bennymuso, Aug 25, 2016.
Both in there prime, who'd win?
the answer is
@Coke Can Baby
and @Biff DiBiase
because they always win everything.
For 2-3 years Tyson was the baddest mother fucker that ever strapped on gloves
Clay was before my time, but I remember Tyson was an animal! Especially in punch out.
Ali had the size, speed, and smarts to beat Tyson. Tyson was a great puncher, Ali, a great boxer. Great boxer beats great puncher. Style makes fights.
Ali's getting banned fucks things all up. Makes it too hard to compare them relative to age.
Ali had the height, and that's about it. Tyson by far had the quicker feet, faster more powerful hands and arguably was the better boxer. He's also a student of boxing, dude lived it. Guys lost before they got in the ring with him. Not stating Ali would, but that's the type of fear he brought out. It's hard to say because anyone could knock out anyone on any night. But in their primes there's no doubt Tyson was the better fighter. I'll never forget when Tyson said he trained and attempted in each fight to punch through guys heads. Dude was a real life monster
People usually say if Ali would win it would be by decision and if Tyson would win it would be by KO but it's really the opposite. If Tyson were to have any chance he would have to outwork Ali like Frazier did in their first fight. Ali has the greatest chin in heavyweight history, next to Hagler in all of boxing history. If Ali were to win he'd likely break Tyson down from the outside over 11 or 12 rounds and stop him late. It's really a coin toss on who would impose their will on the other.
This. When Tyson was in his prime, his opponents would just about piss their trunks when they stepped into the ring. It was written all over their faces, they were afraid that they wouldn't survive the beating they were about to take.
Ali had faster hands and feet than Tyson. Ali could stick and move, Tyson fought one way, straight forward. I think Ali would have frustrated Tyson, he had a much longer reach. Tyson was a beast, no doubt, but Ali had ring generalship.
I think Larry Holmes would beat Tyson also. Holmes had the best left jab ever!
I saw Tyson fight when I was 12 yrs old. Felt Forum. He knocked out Sammy Scaff 1 min into the first round. Scaff was unconscious on his ft. before he hit the deck. It was Tyson's last fight with Cus D'mato in his corner. If D'mato had lived Tyson may have had an undefeated career, but I still think Ali in his prime would beat him. Just my opinion.
thats all we got, our opinions on this..
Most of Tyson's fights didn't last more than three rounds. Ali would have worn him out and took him out, like he did Foreman.
I mostly agree, but I think a young Iron Mike, with the speed and power knock Ali out. If anyone is really interested, this is an outstanding book that talks with a bunch of guys Tyson fought and what it was like to get hit by him:
10 year old tree boxer girl from Russia beats tyson
Ali would have won. He wouldn't have been afraid of Tyson for one thing. Plus, he was a better boxer and damn near impossible to hit, especially the one in his prime. The boxer usually beats the puncher. The general consensus is that the heavyweight division dipped briefly in the 80s, after Ali, Frazier, and Foreman retired. The welters & middleweights were the stars of the 80s boxing scene.
So many great fighters. That era rivals any in boxing history.
The savage intensity Tyson had in his prime gives him the edge.
Also, Ali was a darling of the media and they made him out to be better than he was. Ali was a great fighter, no doubt, but not as good as his image made him out to be.