Missouri Democrats Introduce Law to Confiscate Your Firearms

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  1. ELMACO510

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    Well, here they go...democrats in Missouri are going to confiscate your firearms. Good thing I don't live in the show me state. I'll just leave it at that.



    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/missouri-democrats-intruduce-legislation-to-confiscate-firearms-gives-gunowners-90-days-to-turn-in-guns/
     
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    This is only for the assault weapons and not shotguns or revolvers?
     
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    I haven't seen the Missouri law so I don't know how they're defining assault weapons.

    Having said that, the AWB of the '90s and Feinstein's new senate bill is rifles, pistols, and shotguns.
     
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    At most all it will do is generate a series of class action lawsuits against the state after the Supreme Court rules it unconstitutional.

    As nobody is in Mo voluntarily, the effort is mostly symbolic and impotent since no assault weapon mass violence has been committed using legally possessed assault weapons. Additionally no assault weapon violence has occurred in Mo probably because being in Mo is deemed sufficient punishment in and of itself.
     
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    I live in MO. This is the first I have heard about this.
     
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    Feinstein's an idiot and her law would never take away shotguns or revolvers from current owners. They can do what they want with their gun control but if they try to confiscate guns from people there would be problems.
     
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    Yes, all the gang members in St. Louis will have to surrender their 9mms, AK-47's, and shotguns or they will be faced with a felony charge. :jj: Oh, and they want all civilians to surrender the firearms too.

    This sounds like a very intelligent law to me.
     
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    I think this issue is probably the closest thing we could possibly get to a civil war or some sort of splitting up of the US. I don't think even abortion rights come close in controversy to gun rights. And one side of the gun rights debate is armed.
     
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    Im pretty sure the republicans control the MO state legislature. This bill is D.O.A
     
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    I enjoy shooting my 12 gauge shotgun and my 22 pistol at targets. The guns were handed down to me from my father and I could care less about them being used to defend myself. I keep them locked up at my sister's house. I would just have a problem with someone trying to take them from me because of my memories I had with them with my late father. They mean a lot to me because of memories and I would hate for some stupid lawmaker to say that it is not OK for me to own them anymore.
     
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    I knew it would not be an issue in MO. The problem is other states might get the same idea. We're worried in CA
     
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    Could not be more wrong. Some of the most anti-gun rights politicians and lobbyists are heavily armed. Most of the anti-gun politicians not only have armed guards around them all day and night, but most of them have concealed carry permits. Same goes for the liberal media and liberal celebrities who use the media as a propaganda tool for gun rights restrictions.

    Dianne Feinstein has a concealed permit and has gone on record many times that she has carried protection in the form of a loaded firearm. She also has armed guards that are taxpayer funded. The mayors of the most restricted cities with regards to firearms like Chicago and New York City have around the clock taxpayer funded security. But they heavily restrict anyone else from having a concealed carry permit or having armed guards.

    You see most politicians are hypocrites. Limousine liberals. Champagne socialists. They want to own guns but don't want the peons to own guns. They don't even believe their own positions as they don't match their actions with their words. And I'm not saying that liberals are the only liars. All politicians are liars and most conservative politicians and lobbyists are liars of course. The priests who rail against pre-marital sex and gay marriage but then go out and rape children are just as delusional.

    The sad thing is that the founding fathers were very clear about gun rights. They are there for personal protection. And that personal protection on a mass scale would become a militia. The second amendment was not for hunting or even overthrowing the government. It was for personal protection of yourself, your family, and your property. And if the threat was a government or foreign entity taking an entire town then everyone simultaneously defending their town would essentially create a militia on the spot.

    The goal of the second amendment wasn't for people to register and form militias on their own. It was to have a generally armed population. Where if trouble were to arise, everyone would be armed, and a militia would be essentially already in place because society had armed itself individually.
     
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    I agree with your points mister Leo Tolstoy but please provide cliff notes the next time so we don't have to read a novel.
     
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    Colorado has similar bills coming up. It would ban the manufacture, sale and future possession of "high capacity" magazines and "assault rifles." It would also close the so-called "gun show loophole" and institute a de facto registry. I have no idea if it can pass or not, but it's panicking companies like Magpul that operate in the state.

    I just don't get it. All the data and statistics are in. So-called assault weapons and hi-cap mags are used in a tiny minority of gun related crimes and homicides. A few hundred (which includes ALL types of rifles, not just so-called 'assault rifles') out of well over ten thousand. Even Biden was caught saying that a ban on these weapons will not stop crimes or diminish the murder rate.

    These anti-gun laws are ALWAYS cooking all over the country. They rarely make the news because they're often symbolic and have no chance of passing in their states. I live in Ohio; a staunchly pro-gun swing state. The state will often vote Democrat, but still, politicians here know not to fuck with gun owners. And still we get these gun control bills that pop up all the time and go nowhere fast. So it's hard separating the hype from the real threats.

    I haven't read the above MO proposal, but the one I saw last month included a fine for any parent or guardian who didn't notify the school that their child attends that there are guns in the home. So if you keep a double barreled skeet gun in a 6 thousand dollar gun safe, you could face a fine if you don't report it to your child's school! I have no idea if that bill can pass, but I put nothing passed the state that voted in a dead guy for the Senate.
     
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    Exactly...the four Democrats in the state know this.
     
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    StL and Kansas city have quite a few democrats. The rest of the state makes MO a toss up if there is a strong dem candidate running.
     
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    I fundamentally agree, BUT The SCOTUS refused to hear arguments against the 94 AWB. Or the NFA of 1934. The SCOTUS has essential declared that the 2nd Amendment protects the individual's right to keep and bear arms, but won't weigh in on the Federal or state government's ability to regulate which kind of arms are OK.

    To be honest, the SCOTUS is so wonky that I can't say for sure if they wouldn't side with MO if this law passed. The intent of the 2nd Amendment has been gutted. As have other Amendments.
     
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    I stand corrected....Isn't Todd Akin from Missouri?
     
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    The anti-run rights proposal are not threats. They are real. After 9/11 the government took away lots of rights. They practically rape you at the airports just to get on a plane yet the TSA was not able to stop the shoe bomber nor several journalists from smuggling drugs and guns on planes. The government has warrantless wiretapping now. They can kill U.S. citizens with drones without even a trial or hearing. We can kidnap U.S. citizens and hold them indefinitely for decades by just accusing them of terrorism. We even invaded two countries that had no relationship with Al Queda.

    When the government wants to take away rights they can. In NYC almost overnight they banned large sodas. Our government banned alcohol overnight with prohibition. You think that they can't do a gun prohibition? You think there isn't a gun equivalent of the Patriot Act sitting on someone's desk? Sandy Hook was like the domestic 9/11 for politicians. A chance to stomp on the dead bodies of children, the same way that they used the dead bodies of the 9/11 victims, to trample over our constitutional rights.

    Most concealed carry restrictions on the books are unconstitutional. Illinois just lost a supreme court battle and now they must have a CC law on the books allowing people to carry within the city of Chicago. Of course they'll just use the common loophole and never issue any CC permits even though technically it is possible to own one. They'll try to put that in place across the country.

    A significant amount of politicians want no more private gun ownership. No more open carry. No more concealed carry. No more hunting. No more self defense. And if they can railroad through legislature like the Volstead Act or the Patriot Act then we are fucked yet again.