Mythbusting: McDonald’s never paid $2.9 million because of hot coffee

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  1. XuXu

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    http://www.vox.com/2014/5/13/571308...-never-paid-2-9-million-because-of-hot-coffee



    In 1982, any venue that booked Van Halen had to read and sign a seemingly endless contract laying out the band's needs. A line from page 40 of the contract has long ago passed into lore: M&M's, it says. "(WARNING: ABSOLUTELY NO BROWN ONES)."


    Van Halen's brown M&M's are synonymous with rock-star excess. But the band didn't care about brown M&M's. They cared about knowing whether the venue had carefully read the contract. They were a pioneer in bringing arena-like performances to smaller cities. That meant huge, hot lights; insanely heavy equipment; thick cables snaking across the stage. If something went wrong, it could go very wrong.


    Hence the brown M&M's. "If I came backstage and I saw brown M&M's on the catering table, it guaranteed the promoter had not read the contract rider, and we had to do a serious line check," David Lee Roth later explained.


    I call this the Van Halen Principle: tales of someone doing something unbelievably stupid or selfish or irrational are often just stories you don't yet understand.
    There's no better example of the Van Halen Principle than the story of the 81-year-old woman who sued McDonald's for $2.9 million dollars because her coffee was too hot. The facts of the case sound insane. But that's because they're not the facts of the case.


    In 2013, the New York Times produced a great, short video walking through what really happened to Stella Liebeck, what she wanted from McDonald's, why the jury hit McDonald's with such a huge fine, and what happened to everyone afterwards. Spoiler alert: McDonald's did a whole lot better than Liebeck.

    Of course, it wasn't an accident that the case got blown into a national outrage. There was money to be made. McDonald's and other major corporations pushed the case as evidence that Congress needed to pass laws protecting them from lawsuits. Newt Gingrich's "Republican Revolution" championed the idea and used the Liebeck story to make their case. It's a bit of an addendum to the Van Halen Principle: tales of someone doing something unbelievably stupid or selfish or irrational are often told because they can help someone else get rich or get elected.
     
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    [video=youtube;w-NshzYK9y0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-NshzYK9y0[/video]
     
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    "attack on lawyers by corporations" would have been easier.
     
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    [video=youtube_share;pCkL9UlmCOE]http://youtu.be/pCkL9UlmCOE[/video]
     
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    fantastic Western Civilization problems!
     
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    Didn't click or read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:tadah::sd:
     
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    Adam Carolla's fight against patent trolls may lead to laws that help big corporations fight legitimate patent holders.
     
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    Good post
     
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    Im not familiar with that story. Do you have a link?
     
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    bottom line, mcdonalds knew their coffee was too hot, evidence was given to the jury to prove this fact that they couldn't deny, the jury awarded a large punitive amount as a punishment to mcdonalds for their willful negligence and to serve as a warning to other companies not to fuck around like this, the judge reduced the award significantly and the old lady only ever really got what was necessary to cover the medical expenses that Medicare (we the taxpayers) would have had to pay, plus her own out of pocket medical expenses over and above Medicare.

    I love how people are just ok with the fact that the rest of us have to pay when these companies do damage that costs money, because, ya know, Murica...
     
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    I've got a thick, snaking cable.
     
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    lol
     
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    So....did Kramer really apply the balm?
     
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    I'm not reading that either.:wtf:
     
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    Those were some pretty serious injuries.
     
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    I saw the documentary it was shameful what happened to her especially that people think is living it up on free money.
     
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    Can you imagine if that was your grandmother in that picture who was the subject of decades of jokes and a wealth of misinformation?
     
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    Tort reform is a rallying cry for the right, allways has been a red herring