NBC just begging for a lawsuit by repeating AGT

Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by Horff, May 19, 2012.

  1. Horff

    Horff Well-Known Member

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    So AGT is a repeat tonight. We already know Howard gets bonuses based on performance. He definitely fell short of even maintaining last year's ratings. But I'm sure he and Buchwald are planning to combine tonight's viewers with the original air date's viewers and then claim that he met those performance benchmarks (which probably had something to do with getting a certain number of viewers). Didn't they learn anything from Sirius?
     
  2. Jon Hein is God

    Jon Hein is God New Member

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    Oxygen network repeated the AGT premiere twice on Wednesday.
     
  3. Murcielago

    Murcielago Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast

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    The NBC TV lawyers have contracts and possible contingencies accounted for in ways the Sirius crew never dreamed of. Howard lost to the Sirius team and they are like a AAA club and the NBC guys are the Yankees.
     
  4. Pigsaw

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    NBC's has been running ads that say AGT was "Seen by over 32 million people".

    Now I don't know where the hell they got that number from but I bet DB and company sure took notice.
     
  5. Rob0729

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    They are basically adding the viewers of multiple nights of broadcasting without factoring a majority of them are the same people watching on multiple nights. The way they are doing their math and the number of time times they are repeating it on NBC and cable, by the end of the summer they will be advertising that more people in this country are watching AGT than there are people in this country.
     
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    Lou Cypher New Member VIP

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    Yep, it's the same bullshit math that had 3 or 4 people gathered around every Sirius radio listening to Howard.
     
  7. MrWarmth

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    Thank you. This explains his new love for the once hated Oprah. He should die of cancer, the fucking sell-out
     
  8. Anyonenow

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    Oprah's New Satellite Radio Show Discussed. 09/26/06. 6:15am
    Howard got back to the Oprah story and said that XM is trying to say that she's going to be a big boon for them. He's pretty sure that once the hype dies down for her show over there, we'll never hear about the show over there again. Howard played an audio clip from Oprah's show where she talked about her new show starting on XM and who will be working there on her channel. She has her friend Gayle King working for her and a few other friends of hers. Oprah isn't doing much of anything on the channel herself. Robin said she heard a little bit of her channel and she heard Oprah on there interviewing her boyfriend Stedman. Howard played a clip from Larry King's show where he asked Oprah about all of her friends doing shows on her channel. Then Larry asked Oprah what she does on there. She basically said she doesn't do all that much. Artie came walking in around that time and mentioned that he was out there changing his flat tire. Howard got right back to the audio from Larry King's show and talked about how obnoxious Oprah is.
    Oprah was telling Larry King that she sometimes doesn't feel that she's fulfilled her potential as far as her career goes. Howard stopped the tape and said that she's so full of it and it's like a big Fuck You to everyone out there. She's making billions doing her show and she's complaining about it.
    George said that it'll be interesting to see how Oprah is doing on XM a year from now. Howard said she won't even be on by them. She's not part of her own Oxygen network which is basically a failure. He said that this whole thing is a way that XM is battling Howard Stern. He also said that you won't hear anything about Oprah failing though.
    Howard had some other clips from Oprah's show. One of them was where Oprah empties her purse after a fan asks her to do it. It was obvious that they had set it up before hand. Gary said she had a copy of a Mya Angelou poem in her purse. She had someone bring out her purse from back stage and pulled out the stuff she claimed to be carrying around that morning. She was pulling out a ton of stuff. She had her Blackberry, the charger for the Blackberry, her wallet, make-up, The Color Purple play ticket, the poem from Mya Angelou, Mya's itinerary... It was like she was promoting everything she's involved with. She also had some pens and reading glasses. She pulled out the money she had in there and said she had a bunch of South African rand in there. She claimed to have just two American dollars in there. Then she found more and said it was $14. The audience went nuts when they heard that... for no apparent reason.
    Howard and Robin pointed out that no one is reporting that XM is losing ground to SIRIUS these days. They will report about how Howard isn't getting as much for ads as they used to but they won't talk about how he's helped turn the company around as far as subscriptions go. He said it reminds him of how years ago, when satellite was first starting out, they would announce new programming each week. Now there are stories about how poorly his show is doing and he wouldn't be surprised if someone is profiting from the smear campaign.
     
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    Wow ...Didn't know(actually didn't care) that it was on there as well.

    Agreed.
    Explains the "LOVEFEST"

    Everything has an explanation, and this solves the riddle.
     
  10. PI Nate

    PI Nate Disenfranchised since 1984... Gold

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    Well, all the numbers are complete bullshit, since ratings are bullshit. The ratings are all based on statistics and these statistics are derived from a not so representative sample (Nielsen households). It's actually kind of ridiculous that so many people buy into the ratings system.
     
  12. Dainty Jainty

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    Reading this filled me with delight. It would be so sweet to see him fail yet another big-time lawsuit. Sure would knock down his hubris a bit. I hope.
     
  13. Mlaw

    Mlaw Quite Contrarian Gold

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    Oxygen isn't the Oprah Network dummy
     
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    You don't get residuals for reality TV do you? I don't think ya do anyway
     
  15. Mlaw

    Mlaw Quite Contrarian Gold

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    Oprah's Network---OWN
    Oxygen---Oxygen

    :facepalm:

    NBC also runs Celebrity Apprentice on CNBC, Fashion Star was run on Style and 'E'---they own those networks so they rebroadcast the shows, it's a pretty common phenomenon in television these days
     
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    Apprentice also reruns on Bravo
     
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    you forget he's delusional. he didnt lose his case, the Judge was jealous...
     
  18. SouthernListen

    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    Agreed. Many years ago I was asked to participate. I stupidly agreed and received reams of logs to fill out. It was ridiculous how much work it would have been. I tossed them. Today they use gadgets hooked up to a TV.

    Any intelligent person probably doesn't want someone else knowing when they watch tv, how much, or what they watch. They also don't have time for dealing with the install and such. They can't be bothered.

    Therefore, you get ratings biased towards morons and those with too much time on their hands.
     
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    Howard may sue regardless. I think that he'd rather believe that someone is screwing him over than accept that he is not a ratings getter at all any more. He used to pride himself so heavily on ratings, and now he can't deliver them to save his life. All of his therapy hasn't helped him realize that his peak has past, and it is downhill from here on out.

    His whole logic for suing sirius was that he "made the company!". Well, He helped in 2006 and 2007--after that his effect was over. Any analyst could see that, but he chose to convince himself that the merger was all about him. He even convinced himself that he should be paid for every xm subscriber. He may try to sue NBC for not hyping him enough.
     
  20. Rupert Pupkin

    Rupert Pupkin That Ass is Attached to Daniela Lopez Gold

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    Neilsen books are beyond obsolete now that most of the country has cable or satellite TV. The cable companies have dead-on stats that Neilsen uses. Much more accurate than 1,200 households back in tha day.

    It is all noted in the privacy policy. Check out what Comcast posts.

    http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Customers/Policies/CustomerPrivacy.html

    What kind of information do you collect and use to improve your cable services and deliver relevant advertising?

    Our cable systems may collect anonymous and/or aggregate information using set-top boxes and other equipment. We use this information to determine which programs are most popular, how many people watch a program to its conclusion, and whether people are watching commercials, for example. As described below under “How does Comcast use personally identifiable information and CPNI?”, we may provide subscriber lists or certain anonymous and/or aggregate information to third parties working on our behalf such as audience measurement or market research firms, for example. These firms may combine this information with other aggregated or non-aggregated demographic information (such as census records) to provide us with audience analysis data though we will require them to remove personally identifiable information about our subscribers from this data. We use this information to improve our cable television service and other services and make programming and advertising more relevant to our subscribers.