Net Neutrality: FCC Chief Proposes Regulating Internet Like a Utility

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  1. chapped

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    Federal Communications Commission Chairman Tom Wheeler on Wednesday proposed sweeping new federal rules to regulate the Internet like a public utility, a notion endorsed three months ago by President Obama.

    The plan "assures the rights of Internet users to go where they want, when they want, and the rights of innovators to introduce new products without asking anyone's permission," Wheeler wrote in an essay posted online Wednesday by Wired magazine.

    An FCC official said the rules would prohibit broadband service providers from blocking access to legal content, slowing delivery speed based on content or source, or favoring some content providers by giving them preferential delivery speeds.

    "In other words," the official said, "no fast lanes."


    The rules would apply equally to wired and wireless services, including mobile broadband used by smartphone and tablets.



    http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...-proposes-regulating-internet-utility-n300261
     
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    no buffering #teen anal?
     
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    teen anal is safe.... looks like the big ISPs have failed... for now, give them time I am sure Comcast has greased a few palms in Washington
    some elected prick will be on a soap box by the end of the day saying that not being allowed to rape customers is unfair
     
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    The internet is safe for time being but you better believe Comcast and Verizon have hordes of lawyers conspiring new methods to circumvent net neutrality. The only reason Wheeler did this, which an FCC official has admitted to, is because OBAMA wanted it to happen. Under a Romney presidency net neutrality would have been dead and gone. Come on conservatives, give Obama the credit he is due.
     
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    The problem about regulating something like a utility is that eventually you get other players pulling out of the marketplace and the utility becomes a monopoly. I agree that there should be net neutrality, but at the same time they shouldn't over-regulate it...and that's where Washington fails the consumer.
     
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    This. Unfortunately there seems to be no happy medium here. Either the government regulates to the point that there is no competition or the corporations fuck with people to make more cash. The problem with government interference is that it slows the drive for new technology. Once the company has a tight grip on a market, why bother working to improve the service?

    What would be interesting to see is if the government really did put some oversight on these douchebags and make them reveal the true cost of the service, not the cost of maintenance plus bullshit "infrastructure investments".
     
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    More government regulations work out so well.o_O
     
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    This is whats happening right now. If Google says this will make it easier to implement their service and the large ISPs are against it then its a good thing.
     
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    My question is, what else is tacked onto that neutered net law?
     
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    :jj::jj: Okay, let's have the internet owned solely by Comcast and when you're paying two hundred dollars a month for a half decent connection which is only available certain hours of the day I'm pretty sure you'll feel differently.
     
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    You're misinterpreting what I said - there does need to be some level of regulation to ensure competitiveness, but over-regulation is also harmful. It's not that the internet would be owned by Comcast, it's that if the government puts in too many terms and conditions many players will choose to leave the market.

    Case in point - the Town of Brookhaven on Long Island and Verizon FiOS, which is probably the only viable competitor to Cablevision. Verizon started rolling out fiber 10 years ago but Brookhaven said that in order to permit them to supply tv and internet service they had to guarantee that they'd complete the whole town within 5 years. Verizon did the numbers and said "fuck you" and stopped their rollout. Now people are stuck with shitty Cablevision, which is the same as Comcast. This is an example of over-regulation.
     
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    Anyone that thinks this is a bad ideas need to know that in the usa we are paying twice as much for half the speed compaired to other modernized countries
     
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    Also this will now open up the utility poles to other companies ending shit geographic monopolies.... if this holds up expect your cable company to start being allot nicer to you
     
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    I don't disagree that there's ample room for improvement with what we currently have. But I would rather use free market competition and occasionally the courts to bring about these improvements rather than cede control over to the government. It's the same story a million times over. The government dangles a carrot in front of us and we jump to put them in charge of something that they lack the competence and/or desire to effectively manage. We've already begun to see successful lawsuits addressing the data throttling issue. I'd hate to see our internet access become the next pawn in the partisan political wars that dominate every other facet of our governance. Remember, the government's solution to inequality is rarely to lift to everyone up to the highest level. More often than not, they instead prefer to take the easy road which invariably results in dragging everyone (but the ultra wealthy) down to a lower level.

    For all our system's faults, at the end of the day, judges will be less influenced by the telecommunications industry's billions of dollars and army of lobbyists than will congressman, senators and presidents. I can't imagine someone like Obama making it a priority to do anything more than increase taxes on middle and upper America to "improve access" to our "most vulnerable" citizens - or words to that effect.
     
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    Market competition. ..

    :cwl:
     
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    Government bureaucrats looking out for your best interests.

    :cwl:
     
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    as of a few weeks ago there were already dirty elected officials mostly Republicans writing up bills to strip the FCC of the power to make this decision ...so yes I am aware that there are dirty bureaucrats trying to screw the American people but the FCC has done the right thing in this case

    competition will always be the consumer's best friend
     
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    I'm not suggesting that this is a cut and dry issue with no gray area. Nor am I saying that corporations are immune to the corrosive effects of corruption and cronyism that plague our federal government. But how many times have we seen it where the government uses a legitimate problem to get their foot in the regulatory door only then to use that opening as a way to massively overreach with the passage of subsequent legislation (or increasingly, with the publishing of executive orders)?

    It seems to me that we the people have more power to use legislation and the courts to selectively and in a very targeted manner, to address specific faults in the free market, than we do to disestablish massive government bureaucracies once they become entrenched in our governmental organization.

    If data throttling is an issue (which it most certainly is), instead of a gargantuan, far reaching net neutrality bill that will come with countless unforeseen consequences, why not just sponsor a bill to address data throttling?
     
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    Grandpa Al Lewis said it best...