New rules for blood donations make less safe supply.

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  1. 1Vegasgirl

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    WASHINGTON — The Food and Drug Administration announced Tuesday that it would scrap a decades-old lifetime prohibition on blood donation by gay and bisexual men, a major stride toward ending what many had seen as a national policy of discrimination.

    However, the agency will continue to ban men who have had sex with a man in the last year, saying the barrier is necessary to keep the blood supply safe, a move that frustrated rights groups that were pushing for the ban to be removed entirely.

    The F.D.A. enacted the ban in 1983, early in the AIDS epidemic. At the time, little was known about the human immunodeficiency virus, which causes the disease, and there was no quick test to determine whether somebody had it. But science — and the understanding of H.I.V. in particular — has advanced in the intervening decades. On Tuesday the F.D.A. acknowledged as much, lifting the lifetime ban but keeping in place a block on donations by men who have had sex with other men in the last 12 months.

    The F.D.A. rules on blood donation generally include very wide margins of error. For example, it bars anyone who has traveled in areas where malaria is common from giving blood for a year, even though malaria symptoms are almost unmistakable — chills and fever — and virtually always appear within 40 days. The agency also has a 12-month waiting period for heterosexuals who, among other activities, have sex with prostitutes or with people who inject drugs.
     
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    Huh? It still prohibits gays from screwing in the last year. All of the blood is tested for HIV anyways. How the hell is it less safe now?
     
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    Restrictions on donors were written when H.I.V. testing was slower and less refined. Today, some tests can detect the virus in blood as little as nine days after infection.

    In written remarks, the agency said it was keeping the 12-month ban because “compelling scientific evidence is not available at this time to support a change to a deferral period less than one year while still ensuring the safety of the blood supply.”

    The shift puts the United States on par with many European countries, including Britain, which adjusted its lifetime ban in favor of a 12-month restriction in 2011.

    Most men’s health advocates called the move long overdue, and said that the overall ban was not based on the latest science and that it perpetuated a stigma about gay men as a risk to the health of the nation. Legal experts said the change brought an important national health policy in line with other legal and political rights for gay Americans, like permitting gay people to marry and to serve openly in the military.

    “This is a major victory for gay civil rights,” said I. Glenn Cohen, a law professor at Harvard who specializes in bioethics and health. “We’re leaving behind the old view that every gay man is a potential infection source.” He said, however, that the policy was “still not rational enough.”
     
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    Psssst ...... They're gay...gaaaaaaaay! :chair:
     
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    Serious question, how does the blood taker know whose gay and whose not anyways? I mean if your not like Richard Simmons gay???
     
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    what gay man hasn't had sex in over a year?
     
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    They screen all blood taken anyways. It is, after all, almost 2015.
     
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    ltd86 Racist Banned User

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    i think they have you take a questionnaire.

    honor system:quote:
     
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    A better question is, why do they want this relaxation of the law?
     
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    Because as a blood donor myself, almost NO ONE donates blood anymore; especially people under 30. If the law can be changed to allow more to donate and still maintain the same level of safety as before, then go ahead. It doesn't appear to be a problem for the UK and the scientific evidence supports this.
     
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    seems stupid to gamble with letting people donate who engage in such high risk behavior.

    but we have to pretend reality doesn't exist anymore in the name of political correctness
     
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    Probably because nobody is paying attention, and some gay men's advocate thought it was a brilliant proposal! I'm sure gays from NY to LA will be lining up to give blood now! I pray to the good baby Jesus I don't get into a serious car accident......btw they have ALL learned their lesson and are no longer having unprotected, indiscriminate sex....
     
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    I can start donating blood now!
     
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    This is a civil right?
     
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    Okay after what I just wrote, you are correct, nobody gives blood anymore, shit, I don't think I ever have volunteered for it myself, and yes awareness needs to be a priority, but are there really that many gay men in particular wanting to donate blood? Is it a thing?
     
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    Not true. Many, many people donate and the strict rules make it safer. There is a different agenda here as usual.
     
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    giving blood is a good thing, and i'm sure it'd be helpful if more people donated, but gays are like 2% of the population. i'm not seeing how this will dramatically increase donations
     
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    Everything is a civil right if you are in one of the right groups of people
     
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    Yeah... I think I'll go by what the Red Cross says rather than what you say.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117954

    Just from September.
     
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