NTSB reportedly considers re-opening probe of Buddy Holly plane crash

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  1. HS Cult Leader

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    NTSB reportedly considers re-opening probe of Buddy Holly plane crash

    Published March 04, 2015

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    FILE - In this Friday, Jan. 9, 2009 file photo, flowers adorn a memorial at the spot where the plane carrying Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and J.P. "The Big Bopper" Richardson crashed killing all aboard on Feb. 3, 1959, near Clear Lake, Iowa. The three young singers were in a single-engine aircraft flying in a light snowstorm in 1959 when the pilot apparently lost control. Holly decided to fly because his tour bus was having heating problems. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall, File) (The Associated Press)



    The National Transportation Safety Board reportedly is considering re-opening its investigation into the 1959 plane crash that killed rock and roll stars Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and J.P. "The Big Bopper" Richardson.

    The Des Moines Register reports that a New England man named L.J. Coon, who claims to be a retired pilot and aircraft dispatcher, petitioned the NTSB to take a second look at the case. The Civil Aeronautics Board, the NTSB's predecessor in air crash investigation, ruled that the primary cause of the crash seven miles north of Clear Lake, Iowa, was pilot error and poor weather conditions.

    However, Coon told the Register via email that he wants investigators to consider whether problems with the plane's rudder pedals caused 21-year-old pilot Roger Peterson to lose control of the plane. He theorized that Peterson may have tried to glide the single-engine Beechcraft Bonanza to a landing before the plane's right wing hit the ground, sending it cartwheeling across a cornfield. Peterson was the fourth person to die in the crash, along with the musicians.

    "I believe that the NTSB will review pilot Peterson's diagnostic actions in the aircraft during this 3.5-minute flight and realize the heroic efforts that took place in those 4.9 miles," Coon wrote.

    The NTSB responded to Coon in an e-mail dated Feb. 19, 2015, and read in part "You have gotten our attention." A final decision on a re-investigation could take several weeks.

    "Our cases are never closed, and we get these from time to time," NTSB spokesman Eric Weiss told the Register. "The key is if there is new information not previously considered by the board."

    The crash has been immortalized in books, movies, and music, with Don McLean's 1971 hit "American Pie" christening Feb. 3, 1959 as "The Day The Music Died."
     
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    Seems like a poor use of the NTSB's time and funds. If this dude wants to find out if it was pilot error or plane malfunction, why not raise the funds and let some private company do the investigation? I don't see how this benefits the public almost 60 years later when all of the technology is obsolete. If there is enough interest in this, you can raise the funds privately.
     
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    Where are they at on the Hindenburg case?
     
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    Like Generalissimo Franco...still dead.

    "...21 year old pilot"? Unless he was a military-trained pilot or some kind of crop duster, I'd have wrapped another blanket around myself and gotten on the fucking bus.
     
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    NTSB: Cold Case

    Maybe they can get some cool graying 80s fading star to lead the cast?
     
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    Hahaha
     
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    What i took away from the youtube video is they sure toured a lot of shitty places.

    If I knew I was going on tour and it included places like Mankato and Kenosah i'd be like, "What the fuck? Can we at least hit a major city?"
     
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    Bonanzas with the V tail are not all that stable in flight. Flying an aircraft not certified for flight in icing conditions, and snow is ice, is not a wise thing to do. I happen to agree with other posters, a 60 year old case is a waste of money.
     
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    Why not Amelia Earhart?
     
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    Elvis did it.
     
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    Terrorists going back in time now?
     
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    Hindenburg is much more worthy, since its loss unfairly killed off hydrogen dirigibles (it was the balloon material itself that was the issue I think).
     
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    "you know i was about to call Buddy Holly back in Feb. 3, 1959,robin."
     
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    This sounds like a great way to spend a few hundred thousand tax dollars. "Well, looking at photos of the blob of aluminum, I'd say it was the rudder, Bob!"
     
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    There are various theories, but they all come down to something igniting the Hydrogen. I don't think you could drag most people on a hydrogen dirigible today.
     
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    Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and J.P. "The Big Bopper" Richardson are dead?

    Thanks Obama!
     
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    Useless waste of money. I'm an aviation enthusiast...I've studied old air accidents...just seems pointless. Nothing new could be learned &/or applied to this generation of flying.
     
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    Really talented...just amazing.

    There are a lot of these old planes still flying out there so if there's an unresolved issue it needs to be addressed.

    It's a high profile case and brings publicity to the NTSB's work I suppose. Also just like any investigation it's important to get things right.
     
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