Politics Obama: doubling down on failure

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    OPINION
    Obama launches new phase with old playbook: Column

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    In his prime-time address to the nation Sunday night, President Obama intended to reassure the American people in the wake of the San Bernardino terror attack, and lay out a strategy to counter the Islamic State, also called ISIL or ISIS. But he had nothing new to offer, and left a sense that he has lost control over a situation that he does not fully understand.

    The president said the war on terrorism has “evolved into a new phase.” But just days after an undetected ISIL-affiliated duo was able to conduct the deadliest domestic terror attack since September 11, 2001, he didn't have anything new to offer. Obama outlined a strategy to destroy ISIL, but it was the same strategy he was talking about a year ago. If it hasn’t worked, why will it do any better in the future?

    The president said we must be “strong and smart, resilient and relentless.” But he has said similar things before. Three weeks ago he said ISIL was “contained,” and later that day ISIL hit Paris. Shortly before the San Bernardino attack, Obama said there was no credible domestic terror threat. However, there was a threat, he just did not know about it. Deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said recently that ISIL did not have the capabilities to mount an attack in this country. But clearly it does, and did.

    The FBI has close to 1,000 ongoing ISIL-related investigations in every state in the country. ISIL could have more boots on the ground here than we do in Syria. And the threat of the Islamic State radicalizing and recruiting people to conduct domestic terror attacks should come as no surprise because the enemy has been talking about this strategy for years.

    Obama recently dismissed ISIL as “a bunch of killers with good social media,” but these killers' ability to conduct outreach to potential recruits through the Internet is their key force multiplier. And the president failed to mention that the State Department is looking at scaling back its ineffective program of countering ISIL propaganda online.

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    Obama said Americans should not turn against each other because of this terror attack, which is true. However, this will require much stronger leadership on his part to change the tone of the debate. Americans have been told time and again by the Obama administration that even common sense questions concerning the role of radical Islam in terrorism are invalid, even bigoted. This message was hammered home by Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who shortly after the San Bernardino attack said she would prosecute those who criticized Islam too vigorously.

    Is it any wonder that neighbors of the San Bernardino terrorists who saw that something was wrong chose not to report their concernsfor fear of being charged with racism? This dangerous situation will not change so long as people believe the deck is stacked against them. We cannot maintain a watchful society if the dynamic is see something, say something, face a lawsuit.
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    The president’s call for tougher gun laws was expected, but he failed to note that California already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country, yet the terrorists obtained guns anyway. Plus, gun laws would not prevent terrorists from setting up pipe bomb factories, or prevent stabbing attacks like the one conducted by Faisal Mohammed at the University of California-Merced in November which may have had ties to radical Islam.

    In general, the speech showed that President Obama is misreading the national mood. Americans are not afraid or terrorized; they are angry and frustrated. The president’s more-of-the-same strategy has failed and will likely continue to fail. Until Obama is willing to address the root cause of radical Islamic terrorism and have an honest national dialogue about how to deal with it, ISIL will grow stronger and more dangerous.

    One thing is certain, the president will not solve this problem in his remaining year in office. The task will fall to his successor, who hopefully will have the clarity of mind to understand the terrorism challenge and take the action necessary to achieve victory.
     
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    Its kick the can down the road time for the President
     
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    People are now calling San Bernardino "the worst terror attack on us soil since 9/11/01"
     
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    All these scumbags keep and stay connected over social media. What's Twitter and Facebook doing about this? Does ISIS have to attack the hippest Tapas-German Fusion restaurant in San Francisco for these techbros to give a fuck and actually help the military find these bastards?

    Oh, and Obama's plan is craptastic and won't work. Arming the rebels doesn't help. Ever. We armed the Iraqis after all. Know where those arms are now? ISIS uses them.
     
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    Obama is from Kenya
     
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    That worthless cocksucker makes me ill.
     
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    Feinsteinasaurus already wants to grab the guns.
     
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    Fighting Terror by Self-Reproach
    How did we become a country more afraid of causing offense than playing defense?

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    The president in the Oval Office addressing the nation about the U.S. fight against Islamic State, Dec. 6. PHOTO: YURI GRIPAS/REUTERS
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    Nobody who watched Barack Obama’s speech Sunday night outlining his strategy to defeat Islamic State could have come away disappointed by the performance. Disappointment presupposes hope for something better. That ship sailed, and sank, a long time ago.

    By now we are familiar with the cast of Mr. Obama’s mind. He does not make a case; he preaches a moral. He mistakes repetition for persuasion. He does not struggle with the direction, details or trade-offs of policy because he’s figured them all out. His policies never fail; it’s our patience that he finds wanting. He asks not what he can do for his country but what his country can do for him.

    And what’s that? It is for us to see what has long been obvious to him, like an exasperated teacher explaining simple concepts to a classroom of morons. Anyone? Anyone?

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    Editorial Page Editor Paul Gigot discusses the president’s prime-time speech and his strategy to combat Islamic jihad. Photo credit: Getty Images.
    That’s why nearly everything the president said last night he has said before, and in the same shopworn phrases. His four-point strategy for defeating ISIS is unchanged. His habit of telling us—and our enemies—what he isn’t going to do dates back to the earliest days of his presidency. His belief that terrorism is another gun-control issue draws on the deep wells of liberal true belief. His demand for a symbolic congressional Authorization for Use of Military Force is at least a year old, though as recently as 2013 he was demanding that Congress kill the AUMF altogether. Back then he was busy boasting that al Qaeda was on a path to defeat.

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    The more grating parts of Mr. Obama’s speech came when he touched on the subject of Islam and Muslims. “We cannot,” he intoned, “turn against one another by letting this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam.” Terrorism, as he sees it, is to be feared less for the harm it causes than for the overreaction it risks eliciting.

    This is the president as master of the pre-emptive self-reproach—the suggestion that Americans are always on the verge of returning to the wickedness whence we came. But since when have we turned against one another, or defined the war on terror as a war on Islam?

    Syed Rizwan Farook, a heavily bearded and openly devout Muslim, was a county employee in good standing with his colleagues who didn’t raise an eyebrow until he and his foreign bride opened fire in San Bernardino. The first 48 hours of the investigation amounted to a nationwide flight from the obvious, a heroic exercise in cultural sensitivity and intellectual restraint, as every motive except for jihad was mooted as a potential explanation for mass murder. Had Farook’s wife not sworn allegiance to ISIS moments before the attack, we might still be debating whether an act of Islamist terrorism had really happened.

    On Sunday the Italian newspaper La Stampacarried an interview with Farook’s father, also named Syed. “My son said that he shared [ISIS leader Abu Bakr] Al Baghdadi’s ideology and supported the creation of Islamic State,” the elder Farook told correspondent Paolo Mastrolilli. “He was also obsessed with Israel.”

    The father went on to explain that he had tried to reason with his son by saying that Israel would no longer exist in a couple of years and that the Jews would soon be returning to Ukraine, so there was no need to take up arms for jihad. “But he did not listen to me, he was obsessed.”

    Now the Farook family professes utter shock at what’s happened. How can they be shocked? How did we become a society in which a son tells his father that he supports ISIS and it fails to register with this ostensibly integrated Muslim family, living the American dream, that perhaps a call to the FBI would be appropriate?

    Here’s how we became that society: By pretending that the extreme branch of Islam to which Farook plainly belonged is a protected religion rather than a dangerous ideology. By supposing that it is somehow immoral to harbor graver reservations about 10,000 refugees from Syria or Iraq than, say, New Zealand. By being so afraid to give moral offense that we neglect to play the most elementary form of defense.

    If you see something, say something, goes the ubiquitous slogan. But heaven help you if what you see and say turns out to be the wrong something—an alarm clock, for instance, as opposed to a bomb.

    This is President Obama’s vision of society, and it is why he delivered this sterile, scolding homily that offered no serious defense against the next jihadist massacre. We have become a country that doesn’t rouse itself to seriousness except when a great many people are murdered. Fourteen deaths apparently isn’t going to move the policy needle, as far as this president is concerned. Will 1,400?

    through a proper lens, let alone protect us from them. On that front, I get the sense he is barely trying.
     
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    Doubling down on failure. He's had 7 years of failures. He's centupling down on failure at this point.

    Poor Hilary is going to be wearing his crown during the election. It's going to snap her political turkey neck.
     
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    We can only hope
     
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    Zuckerberg was given a medal by the CIA years ago.
    What do you think it was for? Attendance?
     
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    Campaign contributions? Obama's out in the Valley once a month to get cash for the DNC.
     
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    :secret: surveillance medal
     
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    The most ineffectual President this country ever had.....George W. Bush and Richarn Nixon laugh at him.
     
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    criminal? ridiculous
     
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    I watched that speech live. I have no idea what it was about, it had no discernible point.