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  1. freds

    freds . Gold

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    the Clinton tax rates on the wealthy will resume.


    the republicans rolled over like we knew they would.


    President Obama came out and taunted them before the vote.



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  3. freds

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    hey Dawg, look at me.

    i started a thread in Politics.
     
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    it's a classic tale.


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    i don't think people are going to be all that thrilled with him: the payroll tax cut is basically dead. everyone's payroll withholding rise about 2% tomorrow.
     
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    as opposed to 4-5%?
     
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    it's time to put on your big boy pants and pay for the party you've been enjoying for the last 12 years.
     
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    everyone's paychecks will be about 2% lower. relative numbers are unimportant. their take-home will be significantly lower and it didn't have to be since there are other ways to obtain the money without sucking it out of the paycheck.
     
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    that is all just so much bullshit. you sound insulting and demeaning when you parrot it over and over again.

    you don't pay for that with payroll taxes; you pay for that with usage taxes. only ignorant idiots think payroll taxes are an appropriate and fair mechanism to raise that money.
     
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    So how close are we to eliminating the deficit now that the rich are paying their fair share again?
     
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    you consume and then you pay on time. it's not a terribly hard concept unless you work only to pay interest charges to banks.
     
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    the biggest consumers weren't paying their fair share of the bill. now, we will order less food and the rich won't hide in the bathroom while the we pick up the tab.
     
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    Looking forward to doing it all again in a couple months :cheer:
     
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    And the country loses again.

    Big deal, with the Tax increases and the whole 15 BILLION in spending cuts we are going to save a whopping 750BILLION over the next ten years. In other words, instead of increasing our debt by 11 TRILLION we are only going to increase the debt by 10.25 TRILLION.
    I don't see how this can be a win by either side, With a shitty deal like this the American people are fucked again by a congress where neither side has any balls to do what is right for the country, All of congress needs to be rounded up and executed for this.
    just kidding about the execution part, i don't want to be rounded up and shipped to a detention camp since obama and the congress also approved the ndaa where we are now subject to having all our emails read and could be held without a trial.

     
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    Liberals got to raise taxes without cutting spending. Big win for them. They don't believe the debt matters.
     
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    it's the Crazy Eddie business plan: as long as you keep cash flow high, debt can be ignored. and it worked out so well for Eddie Antar
     
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    The "fiscal cliff" deal that was designed to save money actually includes $330.3 billion in new spending over the next decade, according to the official estimate the Congressional Budget Office released Tuesday afternoon.

    CBO said the bill contains about $25.1 billion in new cuts, but those are swamped by the new spending on extended unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless and other new refundable tax credits that President Obama fought for.
    Of those cuts, only $2 billion are scheduled to take effect in 2013.
    And CBO also warned that some of the cuts Congress is counting are from programs on which CBO never expected the money to be spent anyway — such as cuts to the Consumer Operated and Oriented Plan, which was part of Mr. Obama's health care law.

    All told, the bill deepens the deficit by nearly $4 trillion over the next decade, when the new tax cuts and spending are combined.
    The bill also delays by two months the automatic spending cuts slated to take effect Wednesday, with a promise to reduce spending in the future to cover for them.

     
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    right. deficits don't matter
     
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    that's why we have white collar federal facilities.
     

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