Ok, which ones of you are .gov trolls???

Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by Avery, Feb 25, 2014.

  1. Avery

    Avery Well-Known Member Banned User

    Reputations:
    133,878
    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2010
    Messages:
    44,521
    Likes Received:
    24,207
    In the annals of internet conspiracy theories, none is more pervasive than the one speculating paid government plants infiltrate websites, social network sites, and comment sections with an intent to sow discord, troll, and generally manipulate, deceive and destroy reputations. Guess what: it was all true.

    And this time we have a pretty slideshow of formerly confidential data prepared by the UK NSA equivalent, the GCHQ, to confirm it, and Edward Snowden to thank for disclosing it. The messenger in this case is Glenn Greenwald, who has released the data in an article in his new website, firstlook.org, which he summarizes as follows: "by publishing these stories one by one, our NBC reporting highlighted some of the key, discrete revelations: the monitoring of YouTube and Blogger, the targeting of Anonymous with the very same DDoS attacks they accuse “hacktivists†of using, the use of “honey traps†(luring people into compromising situations using sex) and destructive viruses. But, here, I want to focus and elaborate on the overarching point revealed by all of these documents: namely, that these agencies are attempting to control, infiltrate, manipulate, and warp online discourse, and in doing so, are compromising the integrity of the internet itself." Call it Stasi for "Generation Internet."

    Greenwald's latest revelation focuses on GCHQ’s previously secret unit, the JTRIG (Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group).

    Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable. To see how extremist these programs are, just consider the tactics they boast of using to achieve those ends: “false flag operations†(posting material to the internet and falsely attributing it to someone else), fake victim blog posts (pretending to be a victim of the individual whose reputation they want to destroy), and posting “negative information†on various forums. Here is one illustrative list of tactics from the latest GCHQ document we’re publishi

    Slide Show: http://www.scribd.com/doc/209051631/The-Art-of-Deception


    the tl;dr rest...

    [​IMG]

    Other tactics aimed at individuals are listed here, under the revealing title “discredit a targetâ€:

    [​IMG]

    Then there are the tactics used to destroy companies the agency targets:

    [​IMG]

    Critically, the “targets†for this deceit and reputation-destruction extend far beyond the customary roster of normal spycraft: hostile nations and their leaders, military agencies, and intelligence services. In fact, the discussion of many of these techniques occurs in the context of using them in lieu of “traditional law enforcement†against people suspected (but not charged or convicted) of ordinary crimes or, more broadly still, “hacktivismâ€, meaning those who use online protest activity for political ends.

    The title page of one of these documents reflects the agency’s own awareness that it is “pushing the boundaries†by using “cyber offensive†techniques against people who have nothing to do with terrorism or national security threats, and indeed, centrally involves law enforcement agents who investigate ordinary crimes:

    [​IMG]

    Greenwald's punchline is disturbing, and is sure to make paradnoid conspiracy theorists crawl even deeper into their holes for one simple reason: all of their worst fears were true all along.


    What is perhaps most disturbing is the level of detail these modern day Stasi agents engage in, paradoxically proposing social subversion without realizing they themselves would be susceptible to just that. And all it would take is one whistleblower with a conscience:

    Under the title “Online Covert Actionâ€, the document details a variety of means to engage in “influence and info ops†as well as “disruption and computer net attackâ€, while dissecting how human being can be manipulated using “leadersâ€, “trust, “obedience†and “complianceâ€:

    [​IMG]

    The documents lay out theories of how humans interact with one another, particularly online, and then attempt to identify ways to influence the outcomes – or “game†it:

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Greenwald's conclusion is spot on:
    So the next time you run into someone in a chat room or a message board who sounds just a little too much like a paid government subversive... it may not be just the paranoia speaking. For the full details "why not", read the formerly confidential slideshow below.
     
  2. SouthernListen

    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

    Reputations:
    240,880
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    38,753
    Likes Received:
    39,505
    I keep trying to read but nothing's happenin'
     
  3. A Succulent Chinese Meal

    A Succulent Chinese Meal Oh, that's a nice headlock, sir. VIP

    Reputations:
    213,658
    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2010
    Messages:
    49,749
    Likes Received:
    23,825
    Is anyone who posts here important enough that the government wants to destroy their reputation?
     
  4. F Vick

    F Vick Stuck up cunt Banned User

    Reputations:
    -126,447
    Joined:
    May 7, 2013
    Messages:
    7,199
    Likes Received:
    3,828

    :pickme:
     
  5. Avery

    Avery Well-Known Member Banned User

    Reputations:
    133,878
    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2010
    Messages:
    44,521
    Likes Received:
    24,207
    why do you think dawg made the site private? because we're very important people!
     
  6. A Succulent Chinese Meal

    A Succulent Chinese Meal Oh, that's a nice headlock, sir. VIP

    Reputations:
    213,658
    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2010
    Messages:
    49,749
    Likes Received:
    23,825
    I'm home bound and disabled.
     
  7. chuk

    chuk Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    130,781
    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2012
    Messages:
    13,718
    Likes Received:
    7,586
    jtrig = jhig
     
  8. stripes

    stripes Active Member Banned User

    Reputations:
    76
    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2011
    Messages:
    24,560
    Likes Received:
    17
    i'm from the gub & here to help

    :evil:
     
  9. Avery

    Avery Well-Known Member Banned User

    Reputations:
    133,878
    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2010
    Messages:
    44,521
    Likes Received:
    24,207
    we love all of God's children here.
     
  10. Psyche

    Psyche Freethinker

    Reputations:
    107,249
    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2014
    Messages:
    31,723
    Likes Received:
    14,177
    Skylarbrie :watchingyou:
     
  11. WillyBest

    WillyBest Achiever Gold

    Reputations:
    251,471
    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2012
    Messages:
    24,586
    Likes Received:
    23,617
    For sure, deep covert psyops.
     
  12. FlaFlaFlunkie

    FlaFlaFlunkie Fabulous!

    Reputations:
    1,189
    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,557
    Likes Received:
    14
    Well he just needs to be fired then because he sucks at getting anyone to take him seriously. :jj: