Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States

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  1. HowardsPrenup

    HowardsPrenup Well-Known Member

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    Anyone watching it on Showtime? It's pretty fascinating, I don't even know where to start. I forgot about the period in the 1950's when the US overthrew govt after govt, through the CIA and the military. And this country could be dynamically different if Henry Wallace had remained the VP candidate alongside Roosevelt, he would've taken over when FDR died. Great stuff.
     
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    Reggae Mistress Old Catcher's Mitt

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    Yep. Watched it last night.
     
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    Westerberg Perfectly Lethal Gold

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    Been watching, I wish he would have had someone else narrate it, his voice bugs me.
     
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    Me too! Horrible affect (or should I say lack of)
     
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    It sounds ok, he has a distinct voice
     
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    What's your favorite part?
     
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    Westerberg Perfectly Lethal Gold

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    He likes to say something.......... and then go.. back after a split second or two.
    Distinctly annoying.
     
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    CIA backed Chinese shadow govt in Taiwan when they put a bomb on a plane in the 50's in an attempt to kill China's PM. I did not know that. :coffee:
     
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    Are these items true or is it conspiracy type stuff?
     
  10. ChuckZ

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    Yah, I'm watching it.
     
  11. GHP

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    He's so fucked up on pills he can't see straight. According to Stone, the entire world was in on the Kennedy assasination

    But don't tell anybody! :p
     
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    You have to watch it knowing that it's entirely Oliver Stones idea of history, so it's to be taken with a grain of salt.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Sorta true, but he goes too far the other way. A lot of it is derived from real quotes and classified info, but he mostly presents one side of the story. I imagine Kennedy will be next week.
     
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    Its a bullshit white guilt show
     
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    In his meanderings did he mention Henry Wallace may have been a Soviet agent?
     
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    you're muslim now

    so you can say this
     
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    Kill, kill, kill....the white man. Thank you.
     
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    No, he praised Wallace - as he should have. Wallace was a great mind, much like FDR. Sad he got hijacked by hillbilly on a war-tractor Truman
     
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    The Wallace stuff was awesome. Still not EXACTLY sure how he got thrown over for Truman. Damn shame.