fredrodger you can't vote you said yours is in the shitter I can't figure this damn thing out being married. It is harder than putting a person on Mars. One minute things are fine the next I'm an asshole. I'm no dream to live with but on a bell curve I'm pretty far over on the good side of the curve. Been married for 17 years but together for 24. Mine is a 6.5 trending down lately how about yours? Stern related because we know Howard's marriage is a sham.