On June 2nd in sports history.

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  1. LaserT

    LaserT You have to have fun. Gold

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    Lou Gehrig replaced speedy, RBI collecting, longtime Yankee Wally Pipp at first base and he became a baseball legend. Wally Pipp went into obscurity with the Cincinnati Reds.


    Lou Gehrig died at the age 37 of ALS. At the age of 36, Gehrig couldn't even button his shirts, go to the bathroom or sign documents that he needed to for health documents for the Yankees. His wife Eleanor stood by him and did everything for him.

    ""Don't think I am depressed or pessimistic about my condition at present," Lou Gehrig wrote following his retirement from baseball. Struggling against his ever-worsening physical condition, he added, "I intend to hold on as long as possible and then if the inevitable comes, I will accept it philosophically and hope for the best. That's all we can do."



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    Lou Gehrig at a sandlot game in the mid 1920's

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    with Babe Ruth

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    At his retirement at Yankee Stadium

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  2. LaserT

    LaserT You have to have fun. Gold

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    Gehrig's insane numbers. It was a different time and game back then, but he dominated the era like no other. He probably could've played another 5 years and added to his stats and no one, including Jeter would be close to his Yankee records.

    Not a big Jeter fan, but Derek did do it in a tougher era. But Lou dominated an era like Jeter never did. Anyway.....to Lou. :beer:

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    I never saw Lou but I got to see Tony's entire career :pray:

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    a different time like he didnt have to play against the athletic freaks called african americans
     
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    LaserT You have to have fun. Gold

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    Yeah I agree, a different time. They didn't have the diversity in the league and the skill of the players today, but Lou was the best of the best in his day. :)
     
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    :wtf:
     
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    Baseball players were well groomed back then. Now they look like frigging gypsies. With the fukakta hair all over the place. Thank you.
     
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    As much as I hate the Yankees, awesome is awesome.
     
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    But pitchers could do all sorts of shit to the ball. Spitting, scuffing, gouging, gooping up one side to make that side weigh more and tumble. I think all that was still going on when Gehrig was playing.

    That's their tribute to Howard.
     
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    Always been an incredibly sad story.

    You just don't see his type of sacrifice and dedication in professional sports these days.

    He was a true, One-of-Kind.

    Great ballplayer, great person.

    I wish we had more like him now.
     
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    Yeah but pitchers back then didn't have the mixed slurves, four finger change sliders, etc and they didn't play against the skilled Africans, Dominicans, Japanese, etc as they have to today. Plus these guys today are trained from a young age and are built in the gyms. A different time and easier game, but will never take away that they were the greats and best of their time.

    I don't take away but the game has changed big time....

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    Do you get the ode to Duck Dynasty and Uncle Si beards these guys are sporting now a days?

    I don't get that one at all.

    Are we in the Grizzly Adams decade?
     
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    As close as we will ever get, and I'm not an Orioles fan...

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    He was an Iron Man too. Too play that many games in a row is insane. Hats off to both. :)
     
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    Granted, Ripken benefited by a "strike-shortened" 1994 season. Illness affected Gehrig's numbers and he could have played a few more seasons than he did but he never played against non-white players. The Negro Leauges in the 20's and 30's featured some of the best players in all of baseball. Ripken played in a fully integrated league and hit 3,184 hits and 431 home runs. His numbers are good enough to get him in to the HoF without the streak that he's best known for.
     
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    This has always seemed to me like the final scene from a great movie, only it happened in real life. Screw "Caitlyn" Jenner, this is courage personified!


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    Put black players in MLB in the 1930's. The lesser whites would have been out of the league. But the best white players should still have done well. If a sizeable percentage of so-so white players were replaced by superior Latin players and superior US blacks the level of skill within the league goes up. Buttttt, it's hard for me to believe that many of them would have been superior to Gehrig. I'm guessing no matter how the league was made up he'd have done very well.

    I've heard this argument made about Babe Ruth when some want to question his greatness. "Well, he didn't have to play against black players." It's almost as if they're saying that every black guy was better than him. I tend to believe that had he pitched against black hitters he'd have mowed most of them down. And if he had to hit against black pitchers he'd have still hit. Would his numbers take a dip? Probably, since the worst white competition would be replaced by superior black competition. But I don't think the statistical hit would be major.

    Unless I'm missing something. If I am, please fill me in.

    Your chart is interesting. I'm surprised that Latin players don't make up a bigger percentage of the league today.
     
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    Baseball has a lot more Hispanic players than black players.
     
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    You're forgetting too that Baseball was the professional sport to play, nowadays the best athletes are split between all the major sports.

    I would have liked to see Ted Williams play now, I bet he would still hit 400.
     
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