Open Up Wide NY, It's Time To Eat Your Own Dogfood

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    New York has sent a warning to its schools: Expect more illegal immigrants.

    The city Department of Education has told principals it plans this year to enroll 2,350 migrant children from Central America who crossed into the United States unaccompanied — with many more to come.

    “It is expected that children will continue to arrive in large numbers in the coming years,” says a DOE memo to principals obtained by The Post.

    The notice comes as the city rolls out a $50 million red carpet for 1,662 minors who crossed the border this summer to escape violence and gangs in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

    In the “surge,” 5,000 of the 63,000 migrant kids caught trying to cross US borders — or who turned themselves in for refuge — have been released to relatives or other “sponsors” in New York state. Mostlive with other illegal immigrants.

    In the city, Queens has received the highest number of unaccompanied children, 732, followed by Brooklyn (434), The Bronx (433), Manhattan (63) and Staten Island (less than 50), federal reports show.

    The recent arrivals join an estimated 350,000 children of illegal immigrants already in New York state — about 12 percent of the public-school population.

    The DOE refused to discuss the exact numbers of recently enrolled children, claiming it would violate student privacy. Officials ignored questions about the cost.

    The city’s per-pupil spending in the 2012-2013 academic year averaged $20,749, which would bring the total for the migrant kids to $48.7 million.

    But the costs could soar, because the youths — many of them victims of poverty and abuse — will need state-mandated English-language instruction, free or reduced-price lunch, and a range of other services, including psychological counseling, medical and dental.

    “The DOE believes that every child has a right to a great education, and we are committed to providing children who have escaped violence with the academic foundation and access to services that they need to establish a path to long-term achievement,” said DOE spokeswoman Devora Kaye.

    But parent leaders worry the influx will strain school budgets.

    “Unless the mayor, governor or president announces that funds will be made available immediately, our already-struggling schools will have to provide more,” said Sam Pirozzolo, vice president of the New York City Parents Union.

    “NYC public schools are already failing to meet the needs of the students they have — 70 percent cannot read, write and do math at grade level. How can they handle thousands of new students competing for the same services without things getting worse?”

    Under US law, all children have a right to enroll in school and receive government services, regardless of immigration status.

    On Long Island and upstate, several school districts have been accused of blocking enrollment of migrant youths by demanding a birth certificate, proof of residency and education records from their home countries.

    DOE has instructed staff to register them without delay and follow up later on documentation.

    “In the city, they don’t tend to give you a problem,” said Manhattan-based immigration lawyer John Cavallo.

    DOE representatives even sit at a desk in Immigration Court downtown, where the migrant kids appear for hearings, to help them enroll in school and sign up for free health care.

    In court, Melvin Bonilla, 17, said he traveled alone from Honduras on a “scary” journey to the United States four months ago. He lives with an uncle in Brooklyn but has skipped school.

    Bonilla told Immigration Judge Virna Wright he finished sixth grade in Honduras and had not enrolled in a school here because his uncle wanted him to learn English first and was paying for lessons. Wright instructed him to register.

    Children can stay in the country if they convince authorities that they faced harm or persecution in their native land. Judges may also grant “special immigrant juvenile” status to a child found abused, neglected or abandoned.

    The migrant kids are not directly affected by President Obama’s executive orders last week to let 5 million illegal immigrants stay in the country. One order exempts from deportation the parents of permanent residents or anyone born in the United States. Another expands relief to “Dreamers” brought here illegally before age 16 — and before Jan. 1, 2010.

    The orders place “recent arrivals” in the same priority for deportation as suspected terrorists and felons. The feds are processing the recent flood of migrant kids more quickly, Cavallo said.

    “While others wait years for their hearings, the recent arrivals get scheduled within weeks or a few months at most,” he said. “The message is: You come now, you’re going to get arrested and deported right away.”

    But Obama vowed to deport “criminals, not children,” and critics contend his actions will encourage more kids to flee to the United States to get amnesty.


    http://nypost.com/2014/11/23/city-schools-warned-of-plans-to-enroll-2350-migrant-children/
     
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    Except legal American children forced to retard their learning pace so illegal children can catch up.
     
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    I don't think I'd mind seeing Mexicans here. We have 0.0 in my area. At least they are Christians and looking for work and a better life.... better than the 3rd world people imported here under refugee claims.
     
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    We've got a newly-arrived immigrant Mexican community not too far from here. They are friendly, hard working, generally nice people. They pack the churches on the weekend and mostly keep to themselves.

    I'm sure there is a bad element amongst them, like most populations, but for the most part, it is a good neighborhood.
     
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    Where do you live?
     
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    I live in Bed Stuy, Brooklyn... Parts of Bushwick, where my gym is located, has transformed into a major Mexican and Central American enclave over the last few years.

    But they are a lot of families; it is quieter and "feels" safer than the neighborhood did before they moved in, when it was mostly Puerto Rican and Black.
     
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    you'd think the harsh winter would send some of them running back south
     
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    I have used a lantern before, though. heheh
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    They will go back when they see what's for lunch in school.
     
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    amnesty doesnt mean anything.
    people b emotional
     
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    SNL's take on Obammy's BS from the other night. You know it's bad when they eat their own.

     
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    Actually part of that image is myth. Illegal immigrants are disproportionately young single males and let's face it, they're not in church on Sunday am, like many young men, they're nursing hangovers. Go visit a strip joint in a rundown area if you want to round up the illegals.

    The Ilegitimacy rate for Latinos is 53%, hardly in line with their ostensible Catholic faith, which forbids it. And like most Christians, a high percentage are doing it by rote or out of habit or family pressure. Their attendance falls off as they become "Americanized". So figure maybe 10% of them are Christians in the true sense of the term, meaning where it'd be a net positive in their behavior.

    It's also hardly adhering to Christian tenants to have children out of wedlock (or in) that you can't afford, can't provide healthcare for, and have to rely on supplemental government programs to house or even feed. Nor does the church or bible avocate breaking the law, no matter what you think of it. Or to avoid paying your taxes. Or to drive w/o a license and insurance, so that when you harm someone the aren't compensated. The bible is full of proscriptions against such irresonsible behavior. So I don't buy the Christianity myth.

    Crime. Crime is highly associated with low education (and IQ) levels. Upper middle class and above, people just don't commit many crimes. Importing millions of unskilled uneducated people w/o any form of screening for prior bad acts, who will likely remain poor, means more crime, period.
    Crime is associated with young males. Immigrants are disproportionately young males.

    Statistics on crime by immigrants show this to be the case. For example, the murder rate for "hispanics" is double that for white Americans. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/murder-rate-for-hispanics_b_5309973.html And this figure includes all the solid, established, mainstream, legal Americans of Latin origin that keep the numbers lower than they would be if they only included recent immigrants. Young male Hispanics are incarcerated at a rate about 70% higher than they represent as a percentage of the total population. But even these statistics are flawed as they do not include criminals of "undetermined" status, nor do they include non-incarcerated petty crime.

    Perhaps a little more experience with the reality of mass immigration would change your opinion too. For a struggling American lower income family it can be devastating. When the house next door to your starter home becomes a flophouse rental for 10 young Mexican men hired by a construction firm, and the lot is turned to dirt from having 7 pickup trucks parked on it and construction materials stacked in the driveway, and your home's value drops $50,000 because nobody wants to live next door to that, and you can't afford to sell it anymore, because you're now upside down in the mortgage, it's not quaint at all. Sure, 10 white guys born in the US could do the same thing. But that's not happening. The former is.

    Mass immigration is always quaint and interesting when it doesn't directly effect you, and when you get services done cheaper, and your meals at restaurants cost less, and if an employer, you can hire labor cheaply. But this applies to higher income people. Meanwhile we have a massive underclass that is paying the price in the form of lower wages, more crime in their neighborhoods, lower property values, and conversely, higher rents as the demand for cheap rentals skyrockets vs the supply.
     
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    Ya I saw a show about people affected in that way, a couple of years ago.
    I don't know what is worse.
    We get tonnes of people in from Africa, India, Middle East, etc. who commit crimes and sometimes the family is like a mom with 6 uncontrollable kids and absent dad.