I'm not sure what issues Dawg has with Elias, but I for one feel his Big Boy AV needs to be added to the new banner. I know he makes the big bucks as part of the saloon staff, but I think you will all agree that this is a well deserved honor. Dawg plasters his mug wherever and whenever he can (twice in the current banner ), isn't it about time we all get to appreciating the true contributors to this site? If you agree, please sign your name below. God Bless The Saloon, and God Bless the United States of America!