CCTV Road rage. Baseball bat vs gun.

Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by SuperFarts, Sep 9, 2016.

  1. SuperFarts

    SuperFarts Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    7,627
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    6,097
    Likes Received:
    11,642
  2. Roland Schwinn

    Roland Schwinn *Likes reported as of October 14, 2016

    Reputations:
    2,453
    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2012
    Messages:
    16,406
    Likes Received:
    3,850
    Wow! That gun was effective as shit! Threat over!
     
  3. fixer

    fixer I'm Retarded you Jerk. On the Power.

    Reputations:
    -7,494
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2014
    Messages:
    1,533
    Likes Received:
    2,669
    I'm guessing this was shot in Italy and they were Italian.
     
    bobblebooey and SuperFarts like this.
  4. ClumpyStern

    ClumpyStern HSS-clean since Dec 2011 VIP

    Reputations:
    310
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    2,515
    Likes Received:
    2,673
    First shot: Good Shoot
    Second Shot: Highly Questionable
    Third Shot: Murder
     
  5. FishySausage

    FishySausage Original Nuttah VIP Gold

    Reputations:
    35,165
    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Messages:
    16,738
    Likes Received:
    29,640
    You never know who you're fuckin with.
    Not worth it.
     
  6. Roland Schwinn

    Roland Schwinn *Likes reported as of October 14, 2016

    Reputations:
    2,453
    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2012
    Messages:
    16,406
    Likes Received:
    3,850

    I was wondering how the extra shots would play out in the eyes of the law.
     
    SuperFarts likes this.
  7. Hugh Blowmont

    Hugh Blowmont Just be funny

    Reputations:
    26,788
    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2012
    Messages:
    6,818
    Likes Received:
    18,774
    That is no doubt the Balkans. You do not fuck with people there.

    There is no "law" there, keep quiet and dont be a shithead.
     
    RenchFries and Roland Schwinn like this.
  8. ClumpyStern

    ClumpyStern HSS-clean since Dec 2011 VIP

    Reputations:
    310
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    2,515
    Likes Received:
    2,673
    Simple: You can use deadly force anytime it's objectively reasonable to defend yourself against an imminent threat of grave bodily harm (or worse) or to protect someone else from the same. However, if you're defending someone else, you're strictly liable (civilly) for a mistake, even if it was a totally reasonable mistake (like if you accidentally kill the wrong person in the process because you thought the victim was the attacker). Once the immediate threat to life or limb ends, so does your right to use deadly force, because, as a matter of law, deadly force is no longer reasonable.

    States that have stand-your-ground statutes don't require imminent threat to life or limb provided deadly force is objectively reasonable otherwise. That means that even in a SYG state, a 6'-4"/250-lb male can't just bust a cap in the ass of an unarmed 100-lb shitbag because he could have protected himself just as well using his fists. If the same shitbag came at him after demonstrating a Bruce-Lee flying kick first (or reaching into his waistband), deadly force would still probably be OK. No matter what statutes exist, "reasonableness" always controls and juries decide whether it was reasonable based on the evidence.

    I won't see it, because he's had me blocked ever since the last time he embarrassed himself pretending he knows a fucking thing about the law or aviation, but I'm sure that fool "NewCastleFan" will be along shortly to post some totally incorrect nonsense about this topic as though he knows something about it.

    Never mind. You can bust a cap if someone looks at you wrong.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2016
  9. hugh jasol

    hugh jasol foxxy Gold

    Reputations:
    34,463
    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2015
    Messages:
    5,631
    Likes Received:
    11,880
    Lol. Never bring a wood bat to a bullet fight.
     
  10. aerostern

    aerostern Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    1,203
    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    2,395
    Likes Received:
    2,809
    dawesome, dotally dawesome...
     
  11. wigtropolis

    wigtropolis Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    4,165
    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2012
    Messages:
    20,633
    Likes Received:
    11,804
    this is why i strictly use blowdarts for all road rage activities
     
  12. SternsEgo

    SternsEgo Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    1,991
    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2012
    Messages:
    3,855
    Likes Received:
    5,438
    that bat sure showed him
     
  13. babybear

    babybear r.i.p 8/3/15, Wherewolf of AZ VIP

    Reputations:
    43,251
    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2011
    Messages:
    21,426
    Likes Received:
    22,675
    you get what you get.
     
    SternsEgo likes this.
  14. Lagersolut

    Lagersolut VIP Extreme Gold

    Reputations:
    27,604
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2015
    Messages:
    2,860
    Likes Received:
    4,542
    Guy with the bat was a stupid hot head ...paid the price
     
    The Nothing 19 and BrerJimmy like this.
  15. BrerJimmy

    BrerJimmy Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    17,725
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2012
    Messages:
    9,416
    Likes Received:
    13,150
    All shots: Just.
     
  16. ClumpyStern

    ClumpyStern HSS-clean since Dec 2011 VIP

    Reputations:
    310
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    2,515
    Likes Received:
    2,673
    Definitely no loss to society.
     
  17. Lagersolut

    Lagersolut VIP Extreme Gold

    Reputations:
    27,604
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2015
    Messages:
    2,860
    Likes Received:
    4,542
    In PA with a license to carry for protection ...that was a clean shoot :cool:
     
  18. ClumpyStern

    ClumpyStern HSS-clean since Dec 2011 VIP

    Reputations:
    310
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    2,515
    Likes Received:
    2,673
    You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. There's no such thing as any "license" for anything that allows you to pop someone in the back of the head after he's already lying on the ground with two slugs in him. Post the statute you're talking about or GTFOHWTBS.

    If you haven't already befriended NewcastleFan, go ahead; you two should get along just great.

    Perfect example of why it's fucking scary the way anybody can carry a weapon legally in so many states, without knowing Jack Shit about what's legal or reasonable.
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2016
  19. dawg

    dawg In The Dog House Staff Member

    Reputations:
    85,425
    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2010
    Messages:
    132,268
    Likes Received:
    114,100
    Use of deadly force to combat use of deadly force. In case you haven't noticed there have been thousands and thousands of people killed with baseball bats. The guy still looked dangerous, still had the bat, he was put down. Dont want to die? dont go after someone with a bat :dontknow:
     
  20. ClumpyStern

    ClumpyStern HSS-clean since Dec 2011 VIP

    Reputations:
    310
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    2,515
    Likes Received:
    2,673
    Nobody's disputing the first shot. But once he's on the ground after being shot, you don't get to pop him again in the head, at least not in any state in this country, especially after other people are in between you and the guy's no longer a threat.
     
    NyMarkNy likes this.