News Russia wants to modify Cold War missiles to destroy asteroids

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    Washington (CNN) Russia plans to modify some of its intercontinental ballistic missiles to destroy asteroids before they hit Earth, according to a top Russian rocket researcher.

    Sabit Saitgarayev of Russia's Makeyev Rocket Design Bureau revealed the effort during an interview last week with the government-owned TASS news agency.

    The United States is also working on ways to prevent asteroids from hitting Earth, but is taking a very different approach. Instead of blowing up the space rocks, NASA plans to shove them away from the planet.



    It is the latest frontier in efforts by both countries to tackle a threat to the planet that dates at least from the extinction of the dinosaurs.

    The Russian missiles would be used to target smaller asteroids of 20 meters to 50 meters in diameter.

    These smaller asteroids can cause significant damage and can sometimes be detected only by observatories a few hours in advance of their reaching Earth.

    Sometimes, they aren't detected at all. In 2013, a 20-meter-wide meteor exploded in the sky over Chelyabinsk, Russia, with the estimated force of 300,000 tons of TNT or more, shattering glass in buildings and leaving more than 1,000 people injured.


    "Unfortunately, we only know about roughly 1% of those asteroids that get down to the 30-meter size, so there's a tremendous amount out there that we have yet to discover," noted Jason Kessler, the director of NASA's effort to find all asteroid threats to human populations.

    Larger asteroids can cause much more damage but can be detected early by space observatories using advanced telescopes and infrared technology.

    Kessler said that NASA calculates it has "discovered about 95% of the one kilometer or larger asteroids," roughly the size of the one thought to have wiped out the dinosaurs upon impact.



    Unlike rockets that deliver satellites to orbit or ferry people and supplies to the space station, intercontinental ballistic missiles, or ICBMs, are designed to be used during a war and can launch at a moment's notice.

    The prospect of Russia modifying nuclear missiles for outer space is likely to cause alarm within the U.S. military. The office of the Director of National Intelligence has already expressed concern about Russian military activities in space.

    Its 2016 threat assessment says that Russia continues "to pursue weapons systems capable of destroying satellites on orbit." The assessment notes that "the Russian Duma officially recommended in 2013 that Russia resume research and development of an airborne antisatellite missile to 'be able to intercept absolutely everything that flies from space.'"




    Melosh worked on NASA's Deep Impact mission. The spacecraft dropped an impactor onto a comet in 2005.

    Melosh downplayed the threat posed by smaller asteroids and told CNN, "There are other, safer ways to deflect asteroids with long lead times."

    He pointed to kinetic deflection, which would fire a rocket into the asteroid to knock it off course, or gravity tractors, which uses a spaceships gravity field to nudge the asteroid off its trajectory.

    "For now, the best thing we can do is to identify potentially hazardous asteroids in space and project their time and location of impact," he said.



    According to Melosh, there are also ongoing efforts at the two U.S. nuclear weapons research centers, Los Alamos National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, to investigate the possibility of using nuclear weapons against larger asteroids with long warning times.

    Paul Miller, associate division leader of the Design Physics Division at Lawrence Livermore, told CNN that the institution was "supporting NASA by modeling deflection techniques, including kinetic impactors or nuclear explosions."


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    Miller added, "We know of no interest in the U.S. in repurposing ICBMs" and questioned their utility in preventing asteroid impacts.

    Deflection intercepts need to occur months, years or decades in advance, and the associated intercept locations are typically very far from Earth, he said.

    And he assessed that other developments would be more effective.

    As asteroid detection surveys improve, he said, "they should provide decades of warning. In that case, a ready-to-launch capability is unnecessary."

    NASA wouldn't address the possibility of using nuclear weapons to destroy asteroids and would not comment on the viability of the Russian undertaking, but is emphasizing its nonnuclear approach.

    One way NASA plans to protect Earth from asteroids is to push the asteroids away from the planet. The space agency is developing an Asteroid Redirect Mission -- the "first-ever robotic mission to visit a large near-Earth asteroid" and "redirect it into a stable orbit around the moon."

    This mission is primarily intended to study asteroids and is projected to be ready for deployment in the 2020s.

    Ben Reed, who heads up the team developing the Redirect Mission, told CNN in June that the robotic lander could use its thrusters to nudge an asteroid off a collision course with Earth. Or alternatively, he said, the lander could use its own gravitational pull to make slight changes to an asteroid's trajectory if it were deemed a danger.

    "We have the technologies to mitigate any potential threats," Reed said.

    NASA also announced in January that it has formalized its program for detecting and tracking asteroids that could threaten Earth. The new program is called the Planetary Defense Coordination Office. NASA said the office will take a leading role in coordinating a response to any potential asteroid impacts.
     
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    Great idea.

    So instead of having to contend with one asteroid coming at the planet, Putin will blow it up, so that we now have thousands of asteroids heading for the planet.

    Brilliant. This sounds like a plan that little Marky Rubio could get his head around.
     
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    BINGO
     
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    You got asteroids???
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    I'm glad someone is thinking about this stuff now that NASA's mission has been changed from space to engaging Muslims and fabricating temperature readings.
     
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    Dan: With the proximity of the asteroid, and no prep time, none of our primary plans can work.
    General Kimsey: Why don't we just send up a hundred and fifty nuclear warheads and blast that rock apart?
    Ronald Quincy: Terrible idea.
    General Kimsey: Was I talkin' to you?
    Dan: This is Dr. Ronald Quincy from Research. Pretty much the smartest man on the planet You might wanna listen to him.
     
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    OK, so this is a lie, only question is what its covering up. Either it's a new round of ballistic missile testing or a pretext for putting weapons in space.
     
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    I'm suing Trump for copyright infringement. :grad:
     
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    Who's gonna trust the Russkies not to just send those missiles over at us?
     
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    There are MANY instances of me using the term 'Lil Marky Rubio' since long before Trump started using it.
     
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    If Putin will have me I am uniquely qualified to help with this endeavor.


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    Good. I hope he takes out the moon as well.
     
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    Earth has had at least 5 ELEs (Extinction Level Events) We are long due for another. I commend them.
     
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    "It's like shooting a bb gun at a freight train." Didn't these fuckers see Armageddon?
     
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    So if an asteroid the size of Nebraska is on its way you want us to do nothing?
     
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    ICBM: you loft your warheads on a suborbital trajectory in order to nail your target. Suborbital. Not leaving orbit.

    Asteroids: you're going to nail asteroids by launching missiles from the surface of the Earth? Meaning you're going to need one fuckload of fuel to lift whatever you intend to move or deter or blow up the incoming rock? That's absurd, without even going further. If this was a serious idea, build a series of stations and factories at the L4 and L5 Lagrangian Points where the gravity of the Earth and the Moon means that what you put there stays there. From those stations you could then further deploy a series of space-based missiles to try and deflect asteroids.

    This would cost a FUCKLOAD of money and energy.

    A more interesting idea would be sending a kind of warhead or "pig" around the Earth at a very low orbit, picking up speed and sling-shotting it towards any incoming rock. That's not going to be an exact science.
     
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    of those 5 only one was from space ...
    one of the reasons why that Jupiter is the 500 lbs gorilla in our neighborhood as witnessed by the shoemaker/Levy comet
    had that hit earth it would have been adios humans ...

    but yes its is naive to think that sooner or later a nice sized rock wont slam into us... shit a 6 mile long rock would destroy almost all life on earth
    and their are millions of those in the kuiper belt