WTF Sadly, More Examples Of America On The Decline....

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  1. HS Cult Leader

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    Florida eighth-grader gets detention for hugging a friend
    By Yanan Wang November 4 at 2:21 AM

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    Ella Fishbough, 14, of Oviedo, Fla., receives a hug from her parents. (WFTV/Screen grab via YouTube)
    Before this week, 14-year-old Ella Fishbough had never gotten in trouble at school.

    The cheerful, curly-haired eighth-grader’s undoing came when she learned that a male friend was having a bad day. As consolation, Ella put her arms around him in a hug.

    “It was literally for a second,” the eighth-grader told Click Orlando. But that moment earned her a morning in detention — as well as a blemish on her formerly spotless disciplinary record.

    Ella attends Jackson Heights Middle School in Oviedo, Fla., part of the Seminole County School District. The district’s code of conduct prohibits “inappropriate or obscene acts” including “unwelcome or inappropriate touching, or any other physical act that is considered to be offensive, socially unacceptable or not suitable for an educational setting.”

    It is at each principal’s discretion to determine what kind of touching is inappropriate. According to WFTV Orlando, hugging was banned altogether at Jackson Heights this year, in addition to holding hands, linking arms and kissing.

    All of these actions are considered by the school to be PDA — Public Displays of Affection — and can result in a range of disciplinary actions decided upon by school administrators.

    Ella’s detention notice lists the reason for punishment as “second PDA.” Click Orlando reports that she got a warning last month after the same boy she hugged put a hand on her head.

    “I do think about inappropriate touching and boys and girls at this age having feelings for one another,” Ella’s mother, Kathy Fishbough, told WFTV. “But that’s not what we’re dealing with here. And if an administration can’t tell the difference between a friendly ‘How ya doin’?’ hug and an inappropriate hug, then I think we have another big problem.”

    Fishbough thinks it is problematic that the PDA policy isn’t consistently enforced district-wide, leaving open a broad spectrum of physical behaviors that could be considered “inappropriate.”

    In a statement to WFTV, Michael Lawrence, a Seminole County Public Schools communications officer, said the following: “Because we are unable to discuss student discipline issues, we cannot provide specific details on this incident other than to say that all levels of discipline are outlined and followed in the SCPS Student Conduct & Discipline Code.”

    “Depending on the nature and type of the offense, as well as repeated behavior(s) and/or misconduct,” he continued, “there are various categories a particular violation could fall in.”

    In a conversation with Fishbough, Jackson Heights principal Sarah Mansur-Blythe said the PDA rule will continue to be strictly enforced — even in the case of family members.

    “I did ask the principal, ‘If something had happened in our family, and she needed to console her cousin, or her cousin wanted to console her, would Ella get in trouble?” Fishbough told Click Orlando. “She said, ‘Yes, ma’am. She would get a PDA.'”

    The television station reports that the school district’s legal department will be taking a “close look” at Jackson Heights’ student manual.

    Similar incidents at schools across the country have drawn attention to the seeming rigidity of policies on public displays of affection. Almost exactly four years ago, two other Florida middle-school students, this time in Palm Bay, were given in-school suspensions for sharing a hug even though their principal said he believed their behavior was innocent.

    Megan Coulter, an Illinois eighth-grader, gained a considerable following after the Associated Press reported in 2007 that she was labeled a “second offender” by her middle school for gently hugging two different people. Coulter was punished with two days in detention.

    “You know, hugs lead to other things,” Mascoutah School District superintendent Sam McGowen told CNN, saying he didn’t want students to be distracted.

    Many of these policies have been in place for at least the last decade, and some were approved by parent-teacher committees. But parents like the Fishboughs believe that the rules have been taken too far, to the point that Ella is now afraid to even touch anybody, Click Orlando reports.

    She is scheduled to serve her detention this Friday morning.
     
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    Pennsylvania boy, 10, suspended for using imaginary bow and arrow
    Johnny Jones was given a one-day suspension from Pennsylvania’s South Eastern Middle School - West for using his hands to fire an imaginary arrow at a friend during class. Lawyers at the Rutherford Institute have taken up the case, asking the district to wipe the child’s record clean.

    BY Carol Kuruvilla
    NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
    Wednesday, December 11, 2013, 2:00 PM

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    Johnny Jones (not pictured) used his hands to ‘shoot’ an imaginary arrow at a friend.
    A fifth-grader in Pennsylvania was suspended from school for using an imaginary bow and arrow.

    Johnny Jones, 10, fell prey to South Eastern Middle School’s zero-tolerance weapons policy when he used a No. 2 pencil to engage in a playful back-and-forth with a classmate. His parents are now pressuring the school to remove all traces of the incident from their child’s permanent record.

    The incident occurred during the week of Oct. 14. Jones asked his teacher for a pencil and got up from his seat to pick it up from the front of the class. While walking back, another student turned a notebook into an imaginary gun and “fired” at Jones. The child responded by using his hands to draw back the bowstrings of an imaginary bow and “shoot.”

    The interaction lasted a few seconds and neither of the boys made a sound, according to the parents’ lawyers at The Rutherford Institute.

    “They were just two friends goofing around,” John Whitehead, the institute’s president, told The News.

    A female student in the class who saw the exchange immediately told the teacher. The teacher pulled the two boys out of class and lectured them about being disruptive. The teacher sent a referral to principal John Horton, who told mom Beverly Jones that her son’s behavior was a serious offense. He gave both boys a one day in-office suspension.

    When she asked why, the principal reportedly told her that her son had made a “threat” in class.

    The South Eastern Middle School did not respond to The News’ requests for comment.

    The school’s policy prohibits the possession of any “replica” or “look-alike” weapon, according to Whitehead. But since Johnny never produced physical evidence of a weapon, Whitehead said the principal’s actions were an “overreaction.”

    “Focus on the majors, not the minors,” Whitehead said. “If a kid intends to bring a real weapon to campus, deal with that.”

    The Rutherford Institute sent a letter to district superintendent Rona Kaufmann, asking her to rescind the suspension and wipe Jones’ record clean.

    “If it goes on his record as a weapons violation, it will follow him for the rest of his life,” Whitehead said. “In some cases I’ve seen, the kids have trouble getting into college.”

    The school has until Dec. 13 to reply before Jones’ parents look into the possibility of filing a legal claim.
     
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    I used to set up imaginary Japanese American internment camps in middle school. There was only one Japanese kid in my class and I think he got annoyed.
     
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    The PC'ers tell us we must be tolerant of others. They don't seem to be very tolerant themselves.
     
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    So this was based on hearsay, and the kid now has a black mark on his school record.

    If a girl had stated that the kid said the N word, is the kid still up on charges?

    Basically, a girl can say anything about any other student, and the kid is automatically convicted?!
     
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    the boy she hugged

    you know he got a boner from that
     
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    Am I missing something here?
    What do kids antics have to do with America decline?
     
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    little by little they're closing down of what we can say and what we can do. Be careful who you vote for.
     
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    Thanks obama.
     
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    Obama needs to know the race of everybody before he gets his DOJ involved.
     
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    And gets them a nice house in a formerly good neighborhood to ruin.
     
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    and "hate crimes" should be abolished as being redundant and racist. Ironic huh?
     
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    They never are. They dictate how others should live their lives but yet they are they most angry, most intolerant group of others ever.
     
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    I was just about to say that...:pissed:
     
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    I had an arsenal of toy guns as a kid. So did every other kid. We would spend hours outside playing fake war. We all turned out pretty normal.
     
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    This. We are one Supreme Court Justice away from losing at least the 1st and 2nd amendments.
     
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    What does the school do after the football team scores a TD? Players often hug each other. Is that considered a PDA? According to the school's definition, it should be! Ridiculous!
     
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    :yay: Great minds.
     
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    :jj: :lo5:
     
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    God, I cannot stand "huggers". I hope they throw the book at her.

    Please set an example for all the other "cheery" assholes who think some annoying person putting their arms around you and ordering you to "smiiiiiiiile..." doesn't make a bad day worse.