there was this guy at sfn who started a thread in the wgas forum. it was called "the counting thread." he would sit in there alone posting one number at a time starting with one. he eventually counted into the thousands before i bailed on him and the site. i would occasionally drop in and post a random number or try to talk to him but he would rarely acknowledge me and would continue with his counting (sometimes for 6-8 hours a day.) i think he was lonely and afraid of being in the general population where you need a minimum of social skills to get along. i think that's how sammy feels about the Bar.