News Scots teaching Americans the art of gun-free policing

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  1. Dave Jones

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    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/s...n-1000-people-killed-by-cops-in-u-s-this-year


    Scots teaching Americans the art of gun-free policing after more than 1,000 people killed by cops in U.S. this year


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    Spencer Platt/Getty ImagesNew York police officers with high powered rifles patrol in Times Square on December 7, 2015 following a series of mass shootings in the U.S. and the terrorist attacks in Paris last month.

    Police in America have turned to Scotland for guidance on how to do their jobs without reaching for a gun.
    Nearly all police officers in the United States – from small town deputies to big city detectives – are armed.
    This year more than 1,000 people, many of them unarmed, and often black men, have been shot dead by police. The troubling statistic has prompted a trip to Scotland, where 98 per cent of police officers go about their work without a gun.
    Police chiefs from New York, Boston, Houston and other cities have gathered at Scotland’s police training academy at Tulliallan, 25 miles north-east of Glasgow.

    Bernard Higgins, Assistant Chief Constable of Police Scotland, outlined the Scottish approach to policing.
    The New York Times reported that he told them: “The basic fundamental principle, even in the areas where there’s high levels of crime, high levels of social deprivation, is it’s community-based policing by unarmed officers.”
    That means, he explained, being willing to retreat from a confrontation with a suspect to defuse the situation.
    While the Scottish approach may be foreign to America’s top cops, the results are compelling. It has been more than two decades since an officer has been killed by a violent suspect, and it is incredibly rare for an officer to kill a suspect.
     
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    While there is some value in this to weed out the obvious whackos from the police force (who are actually very few),
    the idea that you can effectively police the U.S. WITHOUT being armed is the height of ignorance.
     
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    Attack of the Clones??


    Just your average and normally equipped NYPD officers out on the streets.
     
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    When's the last time a World Star Hip Hop "episode" was shot in Scotland?

    Drunken gingers and a few random Muslims are a walk in the park compared to what cops deal with here.
     
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    We can teach them about no kilt zones.
    And who the fuck eats haggis?
     
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    Willingness to retreat to defuse a situation?

    Fuck that

    The first time a cop @retreats to diffuse " and it results in an additional assault / crime Cops will get hit with a lawsuit.

    The end result of all this PC BS will either be having to pay cops more (because no one will want the job) or having to lower the standards for hiring.

    Sadly it will probably be the latter.
     
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    Nice to see the "I would walk 500 miles" guys got some work after the singing career dried up.
     
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    I see there's no mention of British police not even going through certain neighborhoods due to fear....
     
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    I think you could also use the same analogy with the cop cars. Cop cars in North America are designed to be intimating looking, where the cops in the UK just average cars covered in reflectors.

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    You can go to the nearest dealership and buy the same intimidating car for yourself.
     
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    I rented a Dodge Charger at the airport once. Vewwy Skawwey.
     
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    there are certainly plenty of communities here where the police could also act like they do in other western nations
    being nice--and walking a beat--getting to know the folks--the folks will know and trust and help you and the like


    and there are some where a little more oomph is required






    policing is also likely much easier when the public is mostly gun free--it's a little more difficult when the animals have glocks
     
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    george zimmerman wanted to be a cop..why?
    cause he wanted to kill and get away with it.
    I think lots of cops are like that.
    those types have to be weeded out, not protected by blue walls, police unions, police chiefs. the media, politicians.
     
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    Cops should not own MRAPs and Camo. I don't know when it became common place for police departments to decide they need a military vehicle and gear. I'm glad obama cut the budget for that.
     
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    It's not a budget thing, it's working on the process: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1033_program

    In May 2015, following the 2015 Baltimore protests, Obama announced reviews of the use of military equipment, stating "We’ve seen how militarized gear sometimes gives people a feeling like they are an occupying force as opposed to a part of the community there to protect them," and "Some equipment made for the battlefield is not appropriate for local police departments."
     
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    In the past 10 years I have been stopped by law enforcement, police and highway patrol. In both cases I was spoken to in a polite and respectful manner and not harassed. Perhaps the problem you had is with you, not them.
     
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    That might be the case for white males. My experience with cops has been fine but Ever been pulled over when a black guy is driving? It's a whole different experience, anybody was says diff is lying to themselfs or not been in the situation
     
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