September 12

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  1. Ganggreen87

    Ganggreen87 Well-Known Member

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    One thing I tell my kids about September 11 is the day after you could feel the power of what we could do as a country. We knew it was the Taliban, we knew it was Bin Laden and we all knew as a country we would do whatever it took to make them all pay dearly. I believe like 93 percent of America was for military revenge in the days after and it was a great feeling knowing we were gonna kick ass. The CEO's and all the major U.S. companies invested in the U.S. market, we weren't gonna go down like that.

    This country was a unified machine for about 6 months and we were kicking ass, it was in a moment of darkness a cool feeling. Wish we did that more as a country and worked togetter like we did those months. No infighting no finger pointing just ass kicking and getting shit done.

    America, I was reminded in those months, is the best country in the world and it isn't close. I'm not worries about China or Russia you wanna fuck with us you're gonna pay. That's what we showed the world in my opinion. Bin Laden gave us that
     
  2. Chrisboom

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    I celebrate on Sept. 12th...to honor the 2nd responders that rushed over .
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    Tiny Tony Well-Known Member Banned User

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    And then we spent billions in Iraq for no reason
     
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    The CEO's and all the major U.S. companies invested in the U.S. market, we weren't gonna go down like that.

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  5. Ganggreen87

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    Microsoft, Intel, Warren Buffet, Gates, etc all heavily invested in the market when it reopened to try to stabilize it and show their support
    It didn't work but it should that they weren't gonna run from the market when the shit hit the fan
     
  6. Signal

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    Too bad stupid Americans elected Bush and fell for his lies about why 9/11 happened and supported invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. Now with thousands of soldiers dead, trillions wasted in the middle east and all we have to show for it are Syrian "refugees" coming to a neighborhood near you. Rah-rah lets blow up the middle east rah-rah, merica es numero uno.
     
  7. EmperorsNewCaps

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    .... Okay, all right. I'm falling for the troll thread. Fine. Here goes:

    Uhh... we didn't really... do.. anything... yeah? We got Bin Laden like nine years later.
     
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    thats all great in hindsight but at the time most americans were glad bush did something about camel jockeys killing american civilians
     
  10. Bosch76

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    And then I remember that Bush failed to get the Taliban and decided on 9/12 to invade Iraq to avenge the attempted assisination of his dad.
     
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    All I want to know is why we still have to take our shoes off at the airport. I'm not kidding either. I know there was a failed shoe bomber on one flight but there was also a failed underwear bomber on a separate flight and I don't have to hand over my skivvies. What is the deal?
     
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    I know, nobody's going to read all this "shit"


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    Those of us who are old enough to remember a time before 9/11 can recall “the good old days” before the police state was ramped up to the militaristic control grid that it is today.

    We remember a time before fear became the only thing that your television fed you. Sure, the propaganda machine and the war machine has existed long before 9/11, but since that fateful day, the fear peddlers and the tyrants have cranked it up a notch – or ten.

    Freedom diminishing step one: The TSA

    Prior to 9/11, no one heard of the Transportation Security Administration because they didn’t exist. The TSA was created as a reactionary security measure to hijackers sneaking box-cutters onto planes. It has since morphed into a vile organization of total domination, degradation, theft, and molestation.

    If you think taking your shoes off at the airport makes you safer, you need to read more history.

    Freedom diminishing step two: The NSA

    Having worked directly under the NSA for several years prior to the attacks on 9/11, I can tell you that spying on Americans was not only frowned upon by our superiors, but it was a chargeable offense. During my years as an Intelligence Communications Intercept Operator, we were told that if we came across “friendly chatter,” we move on, or we go to jail.

    However, since 9/11, the NSA has conducted an about face. The restrictions that kept myself and my team from spying on Americans were lifted. The tenticles of this police state leviathan quickly spread their way into every facet of American life. We wouldn’t find out until several years later that all of our private data has been, and forever will be, subject to the prying eyes of the state.

    Freedom diminishing step three: Perpetual War

    The attacks on the world trade centers ushered in a new means of the state to spread its empire. A new and vaguely defined ‘enemy’ had been declared and its name was terrorism.

    “Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists,” George Bush ironically said immediately after saying the terrorists “hate us…because we can disagree with each other.”

    Literally overnight, the entire world was declared an enemy of the United States unless they prostrated themselves and declared their unwavering support for the US empire.

    This notion gave birth to the state’s ability to declare a perpetual war. The war on the ‘tactic’ of terrorism would give way to an unlimited expansion of police state powers, and the state knew it. Bush would even state this idea in his speech. Later in the same September 20th speech, Bush would declare that the war “will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated.” In the same speech, he later said that this war is “a task that does not end.”

    Despite both Obama and Bush declaring the wars a success and having ended, nothing could be further from the truth. Since 9/11 secret US prisons popped up where unspeakable acts of torture continue to this day. Millions of innocent civilians have been slain and continue to be slain. Countless children have been blown to bits by American’s spreading democracy with hellfire missiles.

    All the while, the average American sticks their yellow ribbon magnet to their vehicles and unquestioningly continues life as normal.

    Freedom diminishing step four: The Militarization of Police

    Along with perpetual war comes the perpetual lobbying of defense contractors for bigger and better ways to kill people.

    “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist,” Dwight D. Eisenhower famously said in his 1961 farewell speech. He couldn’t have been more right.

    As taxpayer dollars go to buying newer and nicer tools of death, these older tools of death need a new home.

    Conveniently enough, the government had a program in place since 1997, which allowed for the old tools of war to come home and be used against the American people. It was called the 1033 program.

    Within just a few short years, thousands of police departments across the country were issued mine resistant vehicles, amphibious assault vehicles, grenade launchers, countless high-powered machine guns, and even apache attack choppers.

    All of this military gear, we are told, is to keep us safe.

    Freedom diminishing step five: The End of Free Speech

    As governments throughout history have attempted to spread their empire across the globe, a side effect is the creation of a police state at home. The United States is no exception, and as the police state grows, so does resistance to it.

    This resistance becomes a thorn in the side of tyrants and they will do everything in their power to silence it.

    Since 9/11, America has entered a Post-Constitutional era of “Free Speech Zones,” riot police with sound cannons blasting down peaceful dissenters, and worse.

    Newly adopted Department of Defense guidelines will allow military commanders to “punish journalists” and treat them as “unprivileged belligerents.” The doctrine allows for the stripping of due process and reporters who are deemed “belligerent” could be carted off to Gitmo and never heard from again, or killed.

    But all hope is not lost.

    Freedom regaining step one: Be the Change

    Sadly enough, this counterfeit version of the “Land of the Free” is now the new normal. The next generation’s benchmark for “Freedom” will be journalists being snatched up in the streets, and cops publicly executing citizens and not being charged.

    The dystopian future that Americans are now taking part in creating is an ominous reality.

    However, to those of us who see the entire picture and remember a time when it wasn’t okay for the blue gloves at the TSA to prod your anus in the name of freedom, we remain resilient.

    So, next time your chest begins to fill with patriotic puff, stop for a second and realize that Americans are not free anymore. America is becoming the evil that it once stood against.

    In the meantime, however, we still have the freedom in this country to inform ourselves and others. Only through a lesser ignorance will these horrid tyrannical traits subside.

    Humanity is involved in a struggle, as we have always been, but there are much more of us now. Inciting peaceful change has never been more important. However, so many well-meaning individuals go about inciting this change with blunt force. This has to change.

    If you truly want to make the world a more peaceful place, you have to become a more peaceful person. Petty infighting, personal attacks, vitriol, and hate are the tools of tyrants and also of those who only claim to be awake.

    Peace is true professionalism.

    Next time you’re cringing in a public setting, listening to Joe Six Pack spout off NFL stats like an ESPN commentator, wait for an opportune time and plant a seed.

    “Hey Joe, speaking of the Kansas City Chiefs, what do you think of wide receiver, Dwayne Bowe and his arrest for having weed? Do you think its cool that he was deprived of his freedom for having a plant? How can we legitimately call this country the land of the free when that can happen to someone?”

    Be the change that you want to see in this world.


    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/te...ericans-lost-freedom-911/#fEzKSx6oX4vrwHFV.99
     
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  13. Limo Wreck

    Limo Wreck Aboard the great mothership Staff Member

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    I went out and bought a new one of these, so the terrorists wouldnt win.
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