Just renewed my xm because my card had expired and I called in to feel them out. And I took the time to tell them I didn't want to pay for stern on Sirius but I still wanted the NFL package. Then I told her that I visit a forum daily were thousands of mostly former stern listeners hang out. Then I said to her that I didn't know why Sirius paid stern so much considering all the drops. And then she says probably forgetting she's being taped, yeah I don't know what they are doing over there (at stern) but you're right! Then I think she realized in panic what she said and quickly changed the conversation.