Steve Dahl

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  1. cdfree

    cdfree Well-Known Member VIP

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    Listening to 101 right now (admittedly) and I heard a mention of Steve Dahl from 1983. Someone needs to start a thread re: how Stern stole much of his early act, at least, from Steve Dahl. Anyone?
     
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    Ok, so you just started a thread about how someone needs to start a thread?
     
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    ARM Well-Known Member

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    This is what's starting to come out now. I'm a touch ignorant to the works of Mr. Dahl but I hear he was a very underrated pioneer in the biz. Dan Felato--producer on Artie's show used to work with him for years I thnk.
     
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    Fellow Chicagoans of a certain age know that Dahl was a huge radio star starting in like 1978, way before Stern, despite being roughly the same age. Stern ended up in Detroit well after Dahl left there for Chicago, and it's been documented that Stern had tapes of Dahl's show sent to him. If you listen to the Shuffle long enough you will hear characters and bits that are completely lifted from Dahl's show. Many more abstract elements as well. The NYC market and access to celebrities obviously elevated Stern's profile. That said, if you think Stern's bad now, listen to Dahl's podcasts. Once he quit drinking and snorting coke it was over.
     
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    I listened to Steve Dahl in the late 70s + into the 80s. I remember him mentioning that Howard was ripping off his bits, but at that time none of us had any idea who Stern was. Paul Colford's unauthorized bio of Howard also mentioned that Howard used to listen to Dahl's tapes.

    Someone here or at SFN posted a list of things that Steve did first - calling Iran during the hostage situation, prank call after a plane crash in Chicago, and putting interns on the air (including the one who died during a tonsilectomy and Dahl learned about it during a call to the hospital on air).
     
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    Dahl started off doing a lot of voices and song parodies. Another Kid in the Crawl (about Gacy) to Another Brick in the Wall, Ayatollah to My Sharona, etc. He broke big in the Midwest when he more or less made disco music totally uncool with Disco Demolition. He would talk to his producer and interns about their lives on the air and fight with them and his wife on the air. Things that Stern said he invented Dahl was doing a few years earlier. Dahl admits that he wasnt the first to do personality driven radio but he was probably the first shock jock. Dahl was wittier than Howard and had more masculine interests in sports, food, music, booze, etc. Steve didn't have writers like Howard and probably did little preparation, he just winged it every day.

    Stern made it bigger because of Dahl's alcoholism, Steve's penchant for pausing to think of something funny to say at times (pauses don't work well on the radio), because Stern played the part of the hyper successful guy (I invented everything! I am the greatest! Dahl was more laid back, he was raised in Southern California.), because of the New York market where the major media was located, he wasn't racist or as misogynistic as Stern so he wasn't as shocking, and most of all because Stern just had a drive to be ultra successful and Dahl did not.

    Dahl was smarter, funnier, had better bits (if it's avaiable online listen to his character Anthony DiGiovanni who worked for the parks department and porked broads on the hood of his Trans Am. Best parody soong of all time is his Let's Pork to New York, New York), knew more about music and current events and actually lived a life outside of the radio booth. He didn't live in his basement. Howard was kind of a dumbed down version of Dahl with more prepartion and more bragging about his own greatness.
     
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    If Dahl did coke, he was the fattest cokehead of all time.
     
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    This post is pure perfection. Dahl also would rail on management on-air (which got him fired from DAI and I think the Loop at least once). In addition, he warred with fellow show hosts, most notably Uncle Larry (see above) who, weirdly enough, was Imus before Imus. I can still remember Lujack busting into the studio to try to fight Dahl. Great stuff.
     
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    Yeah back then it was like the wrestling Territories pre WWE/WWF, people got tapes and ripped of others gimmicks all the time. Wiggy will never admit to this. Ever.
     
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    I remember Dahl talking about Falato quite a bit. Here's a picture I found. Is that Harry Shearer?

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    You're right. Howard most likely invented his feud with Imus after listening to Dahl's feud with Lujack. The difference is if Imus had physically confronted Howard on air, Howard would have folded, but Dahl and Lujack actually went at it on air and if I remember correctly Garry Meier had to restrain them from hitting each other. It was very funny at the time, not sure if it would hold up but back then it was like nothing else you ever heard on radio or tv.
     
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    Dahl used to always complain about Stern stealing from him. I never believed it until I heard replays of Stern Show where he called into the Bijou Theater. Now how on earth am I supposed to believe Howard knew to call in to an obscure gay porn theater because their phone message had funny descriptions of the movies they were showing? That was straight out thievery as Dahl had been doing it for years. After that, there were quite a few bits that were clearly taken in their entirety, including the homo club, the Anthony voice, the black traffic person in the helicopter all of these were just too identical to be anything other than stolen material
     
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    Is he the guy who mailed a box of feces to Howard?
     
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    Lujack confronted Dahl by walking into his studio while on the air. Dahl walked out of the studio. Meier had a broken leg at the time and hobbled out after.
     
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    This is not to say that Howard was unoriginal. I loved his work when he finally came to Chicago. It's just pretty clear before Howard expanded beyond the east coast that some of his major bits were stolen in their entirety without even an effort to repackage.
     
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    Did Howard do an Italian stud type of character like Anthony? Wow, if he did he is one brazen thief. In retropsect, I wonder if Andrew Dice Clay stole his character from Dahl's Anthony. BTW for those who never heard Dahl's Anthony it was much funnier than Andrew Dice Clay. Another thing Howard stole was the Devil character with the modulated voice. To compare Dahl vs. Stern all you have to do is hear Dahl's satan vs. Stern's satan. Dahl's was hilarious and Stern's not so much. Also Howard's Mama Looka BooBoo was incredibly lame in comparison to Steve's earlier Tyrone the traffic helicopter pimp. Stern just didn't have the comedy chops that Dahl did. Jackie made Howard funny at times, but even with Jackie and later Artie, Howard was always a pale imitation. It just shows you that to tell everyone you are the best and yell the loudest is most of the battle.
     
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    Wiggy once when talking about Dahl said he and nerdy friends used to listen to tapes of Dahl when he was still in college...:coffee:
     
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    I should add that the Bijou was in Chicago, a market he would not enter for years. There is no way he found that on his own.
     
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    Howard did do an Anthony voice although I don't think it was an official character. He brought the voice back to mock the old military veteran from Milwaukee in the original cast of Survivor.
     
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    There was also Cliff Mansavage, who ran the home for wayward boys in Grundy county.

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