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  1. booybob

    booybob Well-Known Member Shot Dead

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    You mean to tell me that in 59 divisions in Philly Romney could not get 1 vote from any black person who lives there.
    19,605 to 0

    You know damn well that if Romney or any other "White" candidate were to get 100% of the white vote ANYWHERE
    that town, divisions, district etc etc etc would be branded as racist.


    [h=5]Miriam Hill, Andrew Seidman, and John Duchneskie, Inquirer Staff Writers[/h] Posted: Monday, November 12, 2012, 5:30 AM It's one thing for a Democratic presidential candidate to dominate a Democratic city like Philadelphia, but check out this head-spinning figure: In 59 voting divisions in the city, Mitt Romney received not one vote. Zero. Zilch.


    These are the kind of numbers that send Republicans into paroxysms of voter-fraud angst, but such results may not be so startling after all.
    "We have always had these dense urban corridors that are extremely Democratic," said Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University. "It's kind of an urban fact, and you are looking at the extreme end of it in Philadelphia."
    Most big cities are politically homogeneous, with 75 percent to 80 percent of voters identifying as Democrats.
    Cities are not only bursting with Democrats: They are easier to organize than rural areas where people live far apart from one another, said Sasha Issenberg, author of The Victory Lab: The Secret Science of Winning Campaigns.
    "One reason Democrats can maximize votes in Philadelphia is that it's very easy to knock on every door," Issenberg said.
    Still, was there not one contrarian voter in those 59 divisions, where unofficial vote tallies have President Obama outscoring Romney by a combined 19,605 to 0?

    The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods - clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia - fertilizes fears of fraud, despite little hard evidence.
    Upon hearing the numbers, Steve Miskin, a spokesman for Republicans in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, brought up his party's voter-identification initiative - which was held off for this election - and said, "We believe we need to continue ensuring the integrity of the ballot.

    The absence of a voter-ID law, however, would not stop anyone from voting for a Republican candidate.
    Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia who has studied African American precincts, said he had occasionally seen 100 percent of the vote go for the Democratic candidate. Chicago and Atlanta each had precincts that registered no votes for Republican Sen. John McCain in 2008.
    "I'd be surprised if there weren't a handful of precincts that didn't cast a vote for Romney," he said. But the number of zero precincts in Philadelphia deserves examination, Sabato added.
    "Not a single vote for Romney or even an error? That's worth looking into," he said.
    In a city with 1,687 of the ward subsets known as divisions, each with hundreds of voters, 59 is about 3.5 percent of the total.
    In some of those divisions, it's not only Romney supporters who are missing. Republicans in general are nearly extinct.
    Take North Philadelphia's 28th Ward, third division, bounded by York, 24th, and 28th Streets and Susquehanna Avenue.
    About 94 percent of the 633 people who live in that division are black. Seven white residents were counted in the 2010 census.
    In the entire 28th Ward, Romney received only 34 votes to Obama's 5,920.
    Although voter registration lists, which often contain outdated information, show 12 Republicans live in the ward's third division, The Inquirer was unable to find any of them by calling or visiting their homes.
    Four of the registered Republicans no longer lived there; four others didn't answer their doors. City Board of Elections registration data say a registered Republican used to live at 25th and York Streets, but none of the neighbors across the street Friday knew him. Cathy Santos, 56, founder of the National Alliance of Women Veterans, had one theory: "We ran him out of town!" she said and laughed.
    James Norris, 19, who lives down the street, is listed as a Republican in city data. But he said he's a Democrat and voted for Obama because he thinks the president will help the middle class.
    A few blocks away, Eric Sapp, a 42-year-old chef, looked skeptical when told that city data had him listed as a registered Republican. "I got to check on that," said Sapp, who voted for Obama.
    Eighteen Republicans reportedly live in the nearby 15th Division, according to city registration records. The 15th has the distinction of pitching two straight Republican shutouts - zero votes for McCain in 2008, zero for Romney on Tuesday. Oh, and 13 other city divisions did the same thing in 2008 and 2012.
    Three of the 15th's registered Republicans were listed as living in the same apartment, but the tenant there said he had never heard of them. The addresses of several others could not be found.
    On West Albert Street, Duke Dunston says he knows he's a registered Republican, but he's never voted for one.
    The leader of the 28th Ward is Democrat Anthony Clark, who grew up under the tutelage of the late power broker and Democratic ward leader Carol Ann Campbell. Clark is also a city commissioner, one of three elected officials who oversee Philadelphia elections.
    "In the African American community from 33d to 24th between Ridge and Somerset, there is a large population of Democrats and there are not many Republicans in there at all. I think it's the issues. People are not feeling that Romney is in touch with them," Clark said.
    Despite the Democratic advantage in the 28th Ward, Clark says he also makes sure party workers are getting the vote out.
    "People get out, give out literature, talk to people about the issues. Also, they work the polls," Clark said. "People know them in their divisions."
    Clark struggled to recall anyone in his area who ever identified as a Republican. Though that is not something anyone would likely volunteer to a Democratic ward leader, Clark eventually remembered Lewis Harris, the GOP leader in the nearby 29th ward, and that rare species: an urban black Republican.
    Harris, in an interview, said he works for the GOP mostly because he believes city neighborhoods need attention from both parties.
    "I open the door to the community and let them be exposed to diversity in the political party," Harris said. "I want political community-based leverage."
    Harris cast his vote for Romney, but he's also an Obama fan.
    "I love both of those people," he said.
    Nationally, 93 percent of African Americans voted for Obama, according to exit polls, so it's not surprising that in some parts of Philadelphia, the president did even better than that.
    In the entire city, Obama got 85 percent of the vote. His worst showing was in South Philadelphia's 26th Ward. There, the president garnered 52.3 percent of the vote, compared to 46.6 percent for Romney.
    Paula Terreri, 57, a 26th Ward Republican who describes herself as a devout Catholic, said outside the polls on Tuesday that she voted for Romney because she opposed abortion.
    Many parts of Philadelphia and other big cities simply lack Republican voters, a fact of campaigning that has been true since Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal, Stanford University's Rodden said.
    In 2008, McCain got zero votes in 57 Philadelphia voting divisions. That was a big increase from 2004, when George W. Bush was blanked in just five divisions.
    As the first African American president, Obama held immense appeal to black voters, but skin color is only part of the story, said Mark Sawyer, a political science professor at UCLA.
    Previous Republican candidates, including Richard Nixon and Jack Kemp, supported affirmative action and urban development, but their party has abandoned those stances, Sawyer said.
    Romney's comments, including talking about people who want "more free stuff from the government" after a visit to the NAACP, only further distanced African Americans who felt the comments played to stereotypes about welfare, Sawyer said.
    Inquirer Staff Writer Bob Warner contributed to this report.
     
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    In San Francisco Obama got 93%. Nothing fishy about it. Face it, the riches most educated people in this country generally reject the bullshit of the Republican party.
     
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    As someone who lived in inner-city Philadelphia for four years, This is not too surprising.
     
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    I know the nigs are in charge and have been the majority in center city Philly for years but you would think that in 59 districts Romney or a Republican would get 1 vote.
     
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    Fuck You.
     
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    If a 59 districts voted 100% for Romney instead of Obama you, a majority of the posters here, msnbc, abc, cbs,nbc would all be screaming racism.

    So, FUCK YOU
     
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    you honestly think if hillary ran against cain or keys in 2016, that cain or keys would get 100% of the vote there and hillary would get 0?
    my guess is hillary would get about 90%.
    they vote party, not race
     
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    Oh please, let the right-wingers who know nothing about the area (better known as the facts) get in the way of their crying.

    Soon, they will be wanting Holder prosecuted and blame a family member of Obama
     
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    In 2008, McCain got zero votes in 57 Philadelphia voting divisions. That was a big increase from 2004, when George W. Bush was blanked in just five divisions.



    Doesn't seem too different from the 2008 numbers. Bush probably did a lot better in 2004 for two reasons.

    1. Maybe more whites then
    2. Although he may have felt the same, he was smart enough to not ever be taped saying he believed 47% of the country didn't want to take responsibility for themselves, and he wasn't concerned about their vote.
     
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    2004 no black on the ticket.
    2008 & 2010 A black on the ticket.

    I knew Romney, and any republican would lose bad, I just didn't expect them to get shutout.
     
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    When I was in Philly in 2000, me and my one roommate saw a George W. Bush billboard in the heart of a North Philly Ghetto. We chuckled to ourselves and captioned the billboard "George W. Bush--He won't call you Reggie to your face!" Maybe that advertising got him a few votes:dontknow: Would be interesting to see if any Romney billboards were utilized in that area.

    Edit: I know color had something to do with it, but if Bush got outvoted by 98 or 99+% in those districts but not shut out, is it really that different?
     
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    don't kid yourself, it's all about buying the urban vote. the democrat game plan works, the more you give to non-contributing voters the more they are indentured. it was the urban vote that captured the swing states.
     
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    i disagree. nothing was bought, they just gave lip service. in the next 4 years i don't think anyone is getting more free stuff.
    the dems talked to the black communities and pretended to understand them, the reps ignored them. if you don't even bother asking for someone's vote, it stands to reason you won't get it.
    ryan wanted to do it, but he wasn't in charge.
     
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    semantics. whats your definition of buying a vote?
     
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    True, Democrats want to give the low & middle income tax people a break
    Republicans just want to give the millionaires/billionaires yet another break.
     
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    how do you give a tax break to people that don't pay income taxes.
     
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    You don't know that much about taxes, do you?
     
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    More Bullshit Mountain double speak. Income taxes are only one type of tax. Even the poor pay payroll, sales, and all kinds of other taxes.

    This 50% of American doesnt pay taxes is 100% bullshit.
     
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    And it comes from people who can't even do their own taxes without help.

    There is nothing wrong with needing help for your taxes....but don't then turn around and start using a tax stat to mock others
     

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