News Texas Woman Seeks Return of Film Showing JFK Assassination

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  1. dawg

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    A Texas woman said Monday that she's suing a federal agency to force the return of a film shot by her grandfather that shows a portion of the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

    Gayle Nix Jackson, who lives in the Fort Worth area, is seeking $10 million in compensation for the film shot by Orville Nix on Nov. 22, 1963.

    In the days after the killing, he gave the film to the UPI news agency with the understanding that after 25 years it would be returned to the family. However, it was obtained by the Warren Commission and another federal panel that investigated the shooting and assassin Lee Harvey Oswald.

    It's not clear where the original copy may be but Nix Jackson believes it's in the possession of the National Archives and Records Administration because most materials that were part of the federal inquiry were forwarded to the NARA. The lawsuit says the agency has told Nix Jackson it does not have it. An agency spokeswoman declined to comment Monday.

    The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza says a film shot by Abraham Zapruder has greater historical value because it shows all of the shooting, as opposed to Nix's film and two others that capture part of the assassination.

    Nix Jackson said her grandfather's film was shot from Dealey Plaza. She said it shows Zapruder across the street and the grassy knoll from where some witnesses thought they heard at least one shot fired.

    It's incomprehensible that authorities would lose "an important piece of historical evidence," said Nix Jackson, whose lawsuit was filed Saturday in federal court in Washington, D.C.

    "I can understand little clerical issues," she said. "I don't' understand the loss of evidence like this."

    Nix filmed the presidential motorcade as it entered the plaza, but he didn't know he had captured the shooting until the photo lab that processed his film told him later.

    The film sequence includes first lady Jackie Kennedy climbing onto the trunk of the limousine, and Secret Service agent Clint Hill jumping onto the vehicle, according to the lawsuit.

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    How did Jackie Kennedy not get shot?
     
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    This is a rarely seen video, we are so used to watching the zapruder film. This is probably the second time i have seen this one.
     
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    I went there two weeks ago...
     
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    Wow, when you search "Zapruder" film you get this from Google. Its like a movie poster and has a cast, seems like bad taste to me. No one asked to be in that film and no one could have known how important it would later become.

    zapruder.png
     
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    Cool film. On the 22nd they replayed a show on the last hours of Kennedy's life. It was really interesting and showcased all kinds of people who were there that day, little boys from the choir that sang, the journalists, the secret service agents. That footage of Jackie climbing on the back is just chilling.
     
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    Too soon...
     
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    ...the guy that drove lee oswald to work at the school book depository still has the car he had back then. it looked to be a 52 chevy coupe, black and all stock with 3 on the tree.
     
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    you go to dealy plaza in Dallas and its eerie how much time seems frozen in that place. Its like a living TOMB.
     
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    the whole area is just creepy. the book depository museum floors are great, but you are really struck with how compact the area really is (you could have thrown a paper wad into that car from where Zapruder was standing). gives you an appreciation of how Oswald could have been so efficient. it was an easy shot.
     
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    Interesting film. I couldn't figure out which individual was Zapruder. I was almost too young to remember much about this, but I do have one distinct memory of JFK's funeral and the horse drawn caisson.
     
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    I watched a HD version of the Zapruder film, that is probably the hardest film to stomach ever.
     
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    Here is the infamous Zapruder film. Watch at your own risk

     
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    Did you go to Dealey Plaza? What did you think?
     
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    Yep, the most gruesome version I saw was in the film JFK; gruesome mostly because it featured close-up segments of the head-shot being replayed a few times ("back and to the left", "back and to the left", "back and to the left").
     
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    One thing new that this film suggests is that previously we were all lead to believe that people ran up the grassy knoll to look for a shooter, but it's pretty apparent from THIS film that people were really running after the car to see what happened. After all, the car stopped before going under the bridge, when the driver turned to check on the President (and shoot him according to some nood-niks). It makes more sense to me that human nature would cause people to follow that President's car to see what happened than to run up a hill where they know a killer was lurking with a high powered rifle.
     
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    also when you bring up the Zapruder film you open the door to all the investigations and conspiracies.



    While serving as chief analyst of military records at the Assassination Records Review Board in 1997, Douglas Horne discovered that the Zapruder Film was examined by the CIA's National Photographic Interpretation Center two days after the assassination of President Kennedy.

    In this film, Horne interviews legendary NPIC photo interpreter Dino Brugioni, who speaks for the first time about another NPIC examination of the film the day after the assassination. Brugioni didn't know about the second examination and believes the Zapruder Film in the archives today is not the film he saw the day after the assassination.
     
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    That's fucking crazy....Jackie reaching for a piece of her husband's skull :crying:
     
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    She probably thought/lived with that the rest of her life :depressed:
     
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