The man who wrote Amazing Grace was a slave trader

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  1. Napoleon V2

    Napoleon V2 New Member Banned User

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    just something for you to think about next time you sing it
     
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    Tell the entire story, Mr. Mouse
     
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    Napoleon V2 New Member Banned User

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    The guy was lost.
    Then he was found.
     
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    In those days they called it Pro-Choice
     
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    to fashion?
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    so what?

    the men who wrote some of the best classical stuff were racists and bigots. the founding fathers of the US owned slaves. the Pope condoned the Nazi's attempted extermination of the sicilians, romans (gypsies), and jews. most of the medical treatments that keep us from dying in our 30s were developed by the Nazi's experiments on their captives. the airplanes we travel in use technologies developed in part by ex-Nazi scientists who developed them to carpet bomb London.

    their actions were despicable, but discarding their works would make the sacrifices of their victims more meaningless than they already are.
     
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    From wikipedia


    In 1743, while on the way to visit some friends, Newton was captured and pressed into the naval service by the Royal Navy. He became a midshipman aboard HMS Harwich. At one point, Newton attempted to desert and was punished in front of the crew of 350. Stripped to the waist, tied to the grating, he received a flogging of one dozen lashes, and was reduced to the rank of a common seaman.
    Following that disgrace and humiliation, Newton initially contemplated suicide. He recovered, both physically and mentally. Later, while Harwich was on route to India, he transferred to Pegasus, a slave ship bound for West Africa. The ship carried goods to Africa, and traded them for slaves to be shipped to England and other countries.
    Newton proved to be a continual problem for the crew of Pegasus. They left him in West Africa with Amos Clowe, a slave dealer. Clowe took Newton to the coast, and gave him to his wife Princess Peye, an African duchess. Newton was abused and mistreated along with her other slaves. It was this period that Newton later remembered as the time he was "once an infidel and libertine, a servant of slaves in West Africa."

    Newton returned to Liverpool, England and, partly due to the influence of his father's friend Joseph Manesty, obtained a position as first mate aboard the slave ship Brownlow, bound for the West Indies via the coast of Guinea. During the first leg of this voyage, while in west Africa (1748–1749), Newton acknowledged the inadequacy of his spiritual life. While he was sick with a fever, he professed his full belief in Christ and asked God to take control of his destiny. He later said that this experience was his true conversion and the turning point in his spiritual life. He claimed it was the first time he felt totally at peace with God.
    Still, he did not renounce the slave trade until later in his life. After his return to England in 1750, he made three further voyages as captain of the slave-trading ships Duke of Argyle (1750) and African (1752–1753 and 1753–1754). He only gave up seafaring and his active slave-trading activities in 1754, after suffering a severe stroke, but continued to invest his savings in Manesty's slaving operations."
     
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    I juss think its a bit ironic that a man who pens a hymn about salvation is kidnapping and selling other humans.
     
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    vry goo melody and song to sing though; I do enjoy it vry much so.
     
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    The mom from 'A Christmas Story' & 'Harry and the Hendersons' shows her tits in 'Slapshot'.
     
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    ....I thought it was only blaecks :scratch: :rs:

    The Blind Boys From Alabama do the best version ever, to the tune of House Of The Rising Sun, ala The Animals.... (HOTRS is actually an old folk song with varied melodies; The Animals created the version most people know..... :grad: )

    [video=youtube;pR1tOVd4PCk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR1tOVd4PCk[/video]
     
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    They were very goo
     
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    How are they? I thought she was pretty cute in a frumpy, MILFy way...
     
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    [video=youtube;A1fDro4hz0E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1fDro4hz0E[/video]
     
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    Excellent. Nicely shaped Bs.

    Slapshot was on this morning and i never noticed who she was(think her only scene was with Newman in bed) til now.
     
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    i always wondered why these ridiculous costumes were in fashion. pointy shoes, powdered wigs, frills, lace, ridiculous colars; then i started watching project runway and :idea:. it all became clear.

    fucking gay guys designing clothes . :jj:
     
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    I grew up in redneck Reggie-hatin'-hat country.... I respect REAL cowboys, guys who actually work on ranches and farms, but the whole Urban Cowboy phenomenon has always irked me. I've often thought if people want to wear costumes from the 1800's, why not the 1700's ? Get a Tritip hat and go for the George Washington look... 1600's ? We could all dress up like Pilgrims and go clubbing...
     
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    give it time. all things in cycles.

    i could rock a tri cornered hat.
     
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    Hey at least you get the important facts correct. :clap: