News The real reason why liberals hate ID requirements for voting

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  1. HowieHasBeen

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    By Cal Thomas

    Published August 23, 2016
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    People line up to vote. (AP)

    Every election cycle we must endure challenges and allegations about fraud(conservatives) and discrimination (liberals) when it comes to voter ID laws. This year is no different.

    A federal court ruled that the Texas Voter ID law passed in 2011, requiring voters to present official photo identification, discriminated again poor, minority and disabled voters and ordered a judge to approve new interim rules for the Nov. 8 election. The new rules will broaden the list of acceptable forms of ID. Voters will now be able to present, among other things, an expired ID, a government check or a current utility bill. "Supporting documents don't have to have a photo, reports The Austin Chronicle, "but if they happen to, then voters will need to present the original. Otherwise, they can present a copy."

    Similar battles over voter identification laws are being waged in other states, notably Wisconsin and North Carolina.

    It's worth reviewing the list of the seven forms of identification currently accepted by Texas law -- a Texas driver license issued by the Department of Public Safety (DPS); a Texas election identification card issued by DPS; a personal identification card issued by DPS; a license to carry a handgun issued by DPS; U.S. military identification card containing the person's photo; U.S. citizenship certificate containing the person's photograph; a U.S. passport.

    Why are liberal groups determined to repeal laws requiring proof of citizenship and residence? The answer is found in a definition of the word fraud...

    Granted, most poor people are unlikely to have a passport, but the state will issue any legal resident an identification card. Are civil rights groups who sued the state contending that poor and minority people are so inept that they can't apply for an identification card? If that is their position, how are they able to apply for SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistant Program) benefits, which require a photo ID? Why is voting the one category in which you don't have to prove your citizenship and legal residence?

    I will answer that question in a moment.

    Three years ago during a similar controversy, Ashe Schow of The Washington Examiner compiled a list of 24 things that require a photo ID.

    You must have a photo ID if you are 25 or under and wish to purchase alcohol or cigarettes. Store signs say so. Want to open a bank account? Photo ID required. Here are the rest of the categories: applying for welfare, Medicaid and Social Security (presumably poor people take advantage of one or more of these programs); unemployment benefits (ditto); rent/buy a house, or apply for a mortgage; drive/buy/rent a car; get on an airplane; get married; buy a gun; adopt a pet; rent a hotel room; apply for a hunting or fishing license; buy a cellphone; visit a casino; pick up a prescription (or buy restricted over-the-counter medications); donate blood; apply for a license to hold a demonstration; buy an "M"-rated video game; purchase nail polish at CVS.

    Again, why is voting placed in a separate category? Why are liberal groups determined to repeal laws requiring proof of citizenship and residence? The answer is found in a definition of the word fraud: "deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage."

    Since many poor people are receiving government benefits, they are responsive to Democrats' claims that Republicans want to cut them off, so they had better vote early and vote often, as the saying goes, or else. Notice the left never focuses on emancipating people from poverty. That might make the poor independent of government, which would be intolerable to the left. They need a reliable voting bloc and keeping the poor dependent on government is a modern form of slavery that is cynical in the extreme.

    Unless discrimination against an individual can be proved, these voter ID laws should be upheld. Otherwise, expect more votes from dead people, illegal aliens, people with false addresses and even Mickey Mouse. All of these scenarios have occurred in previous elections and are likely to be repeated in this and future ones without proper identification.


    Cal Thomas is America's most widely syndicated op-ed columnist. He joined Fox News Channel in 1997 as a political contributor. His latest book is "What Works: Common Sense Solutions for a Stronger America" is available in bookstores now. Readers may email Cal Thomas at tcaeditors@tribune.com.
     
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    This kind of falls under "duh" but nice read nonetheless.
     
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    it doesn't matter!

    Drumpf wants the 11million illegals to stay.
    he now wants their votes.
     
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    Voter fraud by impersonation is inefficient and non-existent and this is the only fraud a voter ID would prevent.

    So if this type of fraud is nonexistent, why put additional burdens on the poor to exercise their right to vote?
     
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    I was going to say the same thing. Fox news and all those other shitty right wing sites seem to think they know everything about liberals but they don't have a clue. Their followers believe every stupid thing they print.
     
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    They're paranoid their base of uneducated, shiftless, do-nothing faggots will be too lazy to do the paper work. :nocheer:
     
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    Trump loves immigrants. As long as they're willing to sign a prenup.
     
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    If reading that whole thing was a prerequisite for voting, I'd be unregistered
     
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    On the opposite side of the coin, making it harder for poor people to vote helps the republicans.

    So really the fraud is putting restrictions on voting that affect a certain voter block.
     
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    Cal Thomas is still alive? Do you right wing fags also get your news from the 700 Club?
     
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    come up with some easy to get (free if needed) national voter id card that is accepted in every state for all elections then

    a single card--that says I can vote---make this issue go away--it's easy to do--isn't it?
     
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    No. @Bro is paranoid the poor are too lazy to fill out the paperwork or have a picture taken.
     
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    don't let bro into your head dude
    it's just the internet
    it ain't real
     
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    The 14th amendment of the Constitution of the United States says:

    1. States shall lose congressional representation "when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime."

    It also says:
    1. No state would be allowed to abridge the "privileges and immunities" of citizens.
    If the right gets to twist the 2nd amendment into a guarantee to own guns then you have to take the two points listed above as a clear indicator that the States have no right to interfere with a citizens ability to vote in Federal elections.

    The counterargument will be that providing an ID is a reasonable burden. That's for the Supreme Court to decide.

    Why do I care? Because I know, just like you know, that those local laws were put in place specifically to stop minority voters from exercising their right to vote. The republicans said as much when they put them in place. They take a great delight in using the law to hurt their oppositions chances to gain representation in the government. Just like the awful "woman't health protection" laws to limit abortion. Every sane person knows they had nothing to do with woman's health. Can't win on the issue so use some transparently bad lie to push your agenda. Both sides have done that over the years and I hate it every time it happens.
     
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    Actually many of them don't have the required paper work and are made to jump thru hoops and pay for it.
    Then there's the phenomena of DMV's closing in poor neighborhoods where ID's can be had.
    Then there's the phenomena of limiting polling places making people travel farther and wait on long lines if they can get transportation at all.
    Then there's the Phenomena of limiting early voting where blacks would organize after church and travel together to vote.


    It's funny, my polling place is down the street. No ID. No Fraud. I sign my name and fill out the card.

    It's obvious putting restrictions on the poor helps the republican party. Even a retard can see that.
     
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    Who the hell can't get an ID card in 2016? If you're THAT fucking out of it, maybe you shouldn't be voting in the first place because you obviously can't afford the internet, cable, or newspapers to educate yourself on the candidates stance on the issues.
     
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    Agreed that poor losers having their vote suppressed helps republicans.
     
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    What if you don't have a birth certificate?
     
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    Go to Hawaii and have them fake one for ya?

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