Politics These donors lost the most money on Jeb Bush

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  1. rory

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    An insurance mogul. A coal baron. Several oil kings and hedge-fund honchos. These are among the donors who put at least $1 million behind Jeb Bush and now have nothing to show for their investments.

    Big-time political donors usually know they’re gambling on risky business, yet even so, the all-or-nothing nature of political campaigns means most of them go home empty-handed – since only one candidate can win, after all. The 2016 election began with roughly 20 major candidates—most on the Republican side—and at least 10 of them had super PACs able to raise six- and seven-figure donations from wealthy backers. Jeb Bush was the undisputed king of the super PACs.

    Before he dropped out of the race on Feb. 20, Bush had thebenefit of more super PAC money—roughly $120 million – than the next four candidates combined. His super PAC—Right to Rise—seemed likely to be the best funded in American history. Little good all that money did. In three primary states, Bush’s best finish was fourth. A campaign swollen with money never clicked with voters.

    Here are the big donors who lost the most on Bush:

    In addition to the million-dollar club, more than 250 others gave Bush between $100,000 and $1 million, including Wall Street A-listers such as Henry Kravis of KKR, Dan Loeb of Third Point Capital, Herb Allen of Allen & Co. and Leon Black of Apollo Management. Another 650 or so gave between $25,000 and $100,000.

    There’s no time for nursing losses, however, because five remaining Republicans are competing fiercely for Bush’s donors—assuming they’re still willing to give. Ohio Gov. John Kasich hews closest to Bush’s moderate pragmatism, though Bush’s fellow Floridian, Sen. Marco Rubio, has brighter star power. Ted Cruz could pick up some of Bush’s southern oil money (though the fracking bust may crimp donations from the oil patch).

    Ben Carson, who never ran for office before, is cut from different cloth than the other candidates, yet he’ll probably go after Bush’s folksiest donors. And even Donald Trump has sent emissaries to some Bush backers, thought it’s not clear whether Trump is mulling a super PAC of his own, to accept big donations, or is merely hoping to preempt wealthy funders from giving to other candidates.

    Among Democrats, Hillary Clinton has many millionaire backers of her own, while Bernie Sanders has foresworn super PACs and is cruising along fueled mainly by small donations—tons of them—averaging less than $30. By the time it’s all over in November, many big donors may wish they had spent their money on something else. If you’re a Sanders supporter, however, 30 bucks is a cheap ticket to a game others are paying a heckuva lot more to attend.
     
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    But big donors dont get any special favors, Hillary told us that so its all good...
     
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    Anyone remember Bill Clinton lobbying the World Trade Organization on behalf of China? That is why Hilary sometimes gets paid more in a one-hour speech than most Americans earn in one year. It's part of the game of of purchasing and selling access, all in the name of promoting "public service". And this is an inconvenient truth.
     
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    Sheldon Adelson lost $15M on Gingrich last election. What a dumbass. :jj:
    Gingrich now thinks that candidates should be able to get the money directly instead of going to super PACs.


    Then there's America's sweethearts. The Koch brothers pledged to spend $900M on this election. Freedom of speech my ass. I guess some people have infinitely more freedom of speech than the rest of us.

     
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    How much did Regan get paid for speeches? I seem to recall he went to Japan and made a cool $2M. Why shouldn't he? Japan owed him for doing his best to break the US auto industry. Hey, Japan, flood our country with all the cars you want and we'll be happy when you put a $50k tariff on vehicles we send to you. I couldn't be happier that what goes around came around for Japan. The only electronics I have that say "Made in Japan" on them are 30 years old. These days it's Malaysia and China. And Chinese scooters are using a replica of a Honda motor. Why pay money for the Honda when you can get a Chinese version for 1/3 of the price?
     
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    Bush lost because of his stance on illegal immigration. His quote that the "illegals come for love" killed him right in the beginning.
    Obama has the flood gates open to let all illegal immigrants and muslim migrants come in and get a swift road to amnesty, citizenship and voting. He wants to wipe out conservatives, republicans . If he wins the battle for the supreme court it will doom the U.S.
     
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    Meanwhile red states are passing all sorts of voting restrictions to ensure that they stay red. Gerrymandering all helter skelter, making it more difficult to cast an absentee ballot, fewer voting booths in democratic districts to make the lines longer. Yeah, they're not trying to rig the game in their favor at all. Here in Michigan, they're so frustrated in Republicans failing to win the state in presidential elections, that they're actually floating the idea of splitting our electorals by district (that they just so happen to get to draw). Had they done that last election, Mitt Romney would have won our state in spite of losing by over 400 thousand votes. No shame in their game, is there? Funny how red states aren't trying to float similar legislation. Why? Because it would take away their all or nothing and Dems would get some of their votes. See how that works????
     
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    The GOP has shifted a weee bit on the height of the wall it will build. It has gone from 0 feet to...I think like 50 feet high, or something like that.
     
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    Blasphemy. Those fucking liberals are trying to ruin this country. :grad:

    Who knew that Obama was a conservative? :dontknow:
     
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    Anyone that thought this country, Democrats, Republicans, Independents,... would ever allow another Bush in the White House is so out of touch they may as well live on Mars. And I am one that would have voted for him if he was nominated. I don't want the socialist nation that we are headed toward, and if conservatives say they refuse to vote for Donald Trump, they are voting for socialism with any Democratic party nomination. If it isn't stopped this election, it may never be stopped,
     
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    And you know. Jeb gets to keep all the money that is left over in his campaign chest. And he can spend it any way he wants. Sweet deal. I may have to run for some federal office and drop out and take the money.
     
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    There are not enough people who believe what they believe left in the United States so Republicans must find other ways to win elections. It is ponderous that the GOP has only 16 minority congressional members out of 291.

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    This trend will only get worse. The GOP better figure out how to appeal to everybody or they will become extinct soon, or maybe instead we'll have Fascism by 2050.:dontknow:..that would be bad.



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    Chris Christie was able to prance around the country ignoring his job...and he gets to go back. They outta make these fuckers quit their current job...for President of the United States?? I think you should have to do that.
     
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    Now is the time for our illustrious FED to act fast and bail out oll these millionaires and billionaires who are all too big to fail and will not be able create all those jobs - overseas of course!
     
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    It cannot be stopped.

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    For people who never earned more than several hundred thousand dollars a year in Civil Servant Money(paid by the People) lets see what the numbers show

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    purchased for 17k in 1974 probably worth 250k today to be fair


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    They bought this $1.7 million mansion in Chappaqua, NY so Hillary could claim residence in the state ahead of her 2000 Senate campaign.

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    3067 Whitehaven St NW, Washington, DC 20008

    Then they purchased this $2.85 million mansion on Embassy Row in Washington D.C. The home has 5 bedrooms and 6 baths


    That nearly 4 million dollars n mortgages taken out in 2000 for both homes with and Unemployed pensioner in Bill and a Unemployed woman Seeking a Civic Service Job In Hillary...

    Citbank approved the mortgage ... Citibank... wonder what kind of relationship the clintons have with BANK.... and what happened to those banks seven years later.....?

    MMMMM


    Nah Donations and Super Pacs don't influence Politicians....
     
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    Because Hillary Clinton is a woman, she cannot be influenced by money. So you are wrong.
     
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    Charity watchdog: Clinton Foundation a ‘slush fund’
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    http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity-watchdog-clinton-foundation-a-slush-fund/

    The Clinton Foundation’s finances are so messy that the nation’s most influential charity watchdog put it on its “watch list” of problematic nonprofits last month.

    The Clinton family’s mega-charity took in more than $140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just $9 million on direct aid.

    On its 2013 tax forms, the most recent available, the foundation claimed it spent $30 million on payroll and employee benefits; $8.7 million in rent and office expenses; $9.2 million on “conferences, conventions and meetings”; $8 million on fundraising; and nearly $8.5 million on travel. None of the Clintons is on the payroll, but they do enjoy first-class flights paid for by the foundation.

    Some of the tens of millions in administrative costs finance more than 2,000 employees, including aid workers and health professionals around the world.

    But that’s still far below the 75 percent rate of spending that nonprofit experts say a good charity should spend on its mission.


    Charity Navigator, which rates nonprofits, recently refused to rate the Clinton Foundation because its “atypical business model . . . doesn’t meet our criteria.”

    Charity Navigator put the foundation on its “watch list,” which warns potential donors about investing in problematic charities. The 23 charities on the list include the Rev. Al Sharpton’s troubled National Action Network, which is cited for failing to pay payroll taxes for several years.

    The nonprofit came under fire last week following reports that Hillary Clinton, while she was secretary of state, signed off on a deal that allowed a Russian government enterprise to control one-fifth of all uranium producing capacity in the United States. Rosatom, the Russian company, acquired a Canadian firm controlled by Frank Giustra, a friend of Bill Clinton’s and member of the foundation board, who has pledged over $130 million to the Clinton family charity.


     
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    You conveniently left out the democrat candidates?
     
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