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  1. Getthepoisonout

    Getthepoisonout I regret my username

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    TL:DR - 10 foot sea rise in next 50 years. Much faster than previously predicted. Mass migrations, wars, etc., etc. Howard related because Chimney Manor and the Florida closet will be under water soon.


    Earth’s most famous climate scientist issues bombshell sea level warning

    [​IMG]AP Photo/John McConnicoAn iceberg melts in Kulusuk Bay, eastern Greenland

    Scientists are depressed about what's coming next for our planet
    In what may prove to be a turning point for political action on climate change, a breathtaking new study casts extreme doubt about the near-term stability of global sea levels.

    The study — written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields — concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet in as little as 50 years.

    The study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, brings new importance to a feedback loop in the ocean near Antarctica that results in cooler freshwater from melting glaciers forcing warmer, saltier water underneath the ice sheets, speeding up the melting rate.

    Hansen, who is known for being alarmist and also right, acknowledges that his study implies change far beyond previous consensus estimates. In a conference call with reporters, he said he hoped the new findings would be “substantially more persuasive than anything previously published.” I certainly find them to be.

    To come to their findings, the authors used a mixture of paleoclimate records, computer models, and observations of current rates of sea level rise, but “the real world is moving somewhat faster than the model,” Hansen says.

    Hansen’s study does not attempt to predict the precise timing of the feedback loop, only that it is “likely” to occur this century. The implications are mindboggling: In the study’s likely scenario, New York City—and every other coastal city on the planet—may only have a few more decades of habitability left. That dire prediction, in Hansen’s view, requires “emergency cooperation among nations.”

    We conclude that continued high emissions will make multi-meter sea level rise practically unavoidable and likely to occur this century. Social disruption and economic consequences of such large sea level rise could be devastating. It is not difficult to imagine that conflicts arising from forced migrations and economic collapse might make the planet ungovernable, threatening the fabric of civilization.
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    The science of ice melt rates is advancing so fast, scientists have generally been reluctant to put a number to what is essentially an unpredictable, nonlinear response of ice sheets to a steadily warming ocean. With Hansen’s new study, that changes in a dramatic way. One of the study’s co-authors is Eric Rignot, whose own study last year found that glacial melt from West Antarctica now appears to be “unstoppable.” Chris Mooney, writing for Mother Jones, called that study a “holy shit” moment for the climate.

    One necessary note of caution: Hansen’s study comes via a nontraditional publishing decision by its authors. The study will be published in Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics, an open-access “discussion” journal, and will not have formal peer review prior to its appearance online later this week. The complete discussion draft circulated to journalists was 66 pages long, and included more than 300 references. The peer review will take place in real time, with responses to the work by other scientists also published online.

    Hansen said this publishing timeline was necessary to make the work public as soon as possible before global negotiators meet in Paris later this year. Still, the lack of traditional peer review and the fact that this study’s results go far beyond what’s been previously published will likely bring increased scrutiny.

    On Twitter, Ruth Mottram, a climate scientist whose work focuses on Greenland and the Arctic, was skeptical of such enormous rates of near-term sea level rise, though she defended Hansen’s decision to publish in a nontraditional way.

    [​IMG]Paula Bronstein/Getty Images An aerial view of Honda vehicles at the flooded Honda factory in the Rojuna Industrial district on November 14, 2011 in Ayutthaya, Thailand.

    In 2013, Hansen left his post at NASA to become a climate activist because, in his words, “as a government employee, you can’t testify against the government.”

    In a wide-ranging December 2013 study, conducted to support Our Children’s Trust, a group advancing legal challenges to lax greenhouse gas emissions policies on behalf of minors, Hansen called for a “human tipping point”—essentially, a social revolution—as one of the most effective ways of combating climate change, though he still favors a bilateral carbon tax agreed upon by the United States and China as the best near-term climate policy.

    In the new study, Hansen writes, "there is no morally defensible excuse to delay phase-out of fossil fuel emissions as rapidly as possible."

    Asked whether Hansen has plans to personally present the new research to world leaders, he said: “Yes, but I can’t talk about that today.” What’s still uncertain is whether, like with so many previous dire warnings, world leaders will be willing to listen.
     
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    Good news for people in Nevada. They will have beachfront property!
     
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    Good, my lawn needs watering
     
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    This is gonna go well.
     
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    Does this occur before or after the 9.2 earthquake in the Pacific NW?
     
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    MyLazyHand Russia and France Know What to Do

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    The coming mini Ice Age will take care of this worry.
     
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    Lemmy Douchebag Extraordinaire Gold

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    Just in time for me getting a place with a pool. :fil:
     
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    Cue all the global warming is fake guys.... Don't forget all your graphs. These scientists obviously are in gores pocket...
     
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    I don't get this can't they just build a giant sea wall? Is not like it will happen all at once
     
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    RenchFries Official Dawgshed Dutch representative Gold

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    That's what the Netherlands has been doing for years.

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    yeah that was my thought its not like there aren't costal places below sea level
     
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    driving down that Highway during a big storm seems scary
     
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    If you're interested, watch this documentary. :hat:



    Makes me proud of my little country.
     
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    This is the same shithead who claimed the sky was falling DECADES ago and was completely WRONG.

    Has he apologized for being full of shit with his previous predictions?

    Of Course Not!

    He just makes another bullshit prediction that is just as wrong as every other one he has made.
     
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    Translation: Look, we all know there is no such thing as man made global warming, but I need the grant money, so help a brother out.
     
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    Yeah, fuck those guys with facts and graphs, we all know real science is theoretical computer models that have been proven wrong time and time again.
     
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    Yea, Hansen is a proven alarmist who uses retarded models to make terrible predictions. He's not a scientist, he's a shill and a politician. He has, in fact, been proven wrong time and time again.

    He was wrong about ozone. He was wrong about global warming. He was wrong about sea levels before. That's why he's publishing this way, without peer review. It's to get maximum publicity before his shoddy work is reviewed. Once the claim is out there, no one will remember the inevitable corrections. That's the way the PR game is played these days.

    Just for added hilarity, here's what Hansen thinks of your charts and graphs
    Oh, btw, he was wrong about that prediction too.
     
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    A lot of them are in Gore's pocket. He owns beach front property in California so he's not really worried about it.
     
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    It's always so funny and retarded to me that climate issues have become a political thing.

    No matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, we all live on the same planet.

    It might be a good idea to try to not fuck it up for ourselves.
     
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