News Tony Blair apologizes for Iraq war and admits its part in the rise of ISIS

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  1. dawg

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    The ensuing war and dismantling of Saddam's government plunged Iraq into chaos, resulting in years of deadly sectarian violence and the rise of al Qaeda in Iraq, a precursor of ISIS. Tens of thousands of Iraqis, more than 4,000 U.S. troops and 179 British service members were killed in the lengthy conflict.

    As the most high-profile foreign ally of former U.S. President George W. Bush in the Iraq invasion, Blair has found his legacy overshadowed by the war, with questions and criticism following him wherever he goes.




    Admits partial responsibility for ISIS rise

    Blair acknowledged to Zakaria that there are "elements of truth" in the view that the 2003 invasion of Iraq was the principle cause of the rise of ISIS.

    "Of course, you can't say that those of us who removed Saddam in 2003 bear no responsibility for the situation in 2015," he said. "But it's important also to realize, one, that the Arab Spring which began in 2011 would also have had its impact on Iraq today, and two, ISIS actually came to prominence from a base in Syria and not in Iraq."

    More broadly, Blair said, the policy debate on Western intervention remains inconclusive.

    "We have tried intervention and putting down troops in Iraq; we've tried intervention without putting in troops in Libya; and we've tried no intervention at all but demanding regime change in Syria," he said. "It's not clear to me that, even if our policy did not work, subsequent policies have worked better."

    Asked by Zakaria how he feels about being branded a "war criminal" for his decision to go into Iraq, Blair said he did what he thought was right at the time.

    "Now, whether it's right or not, that's for -- everyone can have their judgment about that," he said.

    Blair's interview with Zakaria comes ahead of a special program, "Long Road to Hell: America in Iraq,"
     
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    Should be locked up for war crimes, lying to the british people and treason over mass immigration in my opinion and many others as well. Some people would actually hang him.
     
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    bush too
     
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    In a perfect world he would share a cell with bush and Cheney.
     
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    I watched that,too. It's refreshing to see a politician admit a mistake. Must be a British thing.
     
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    I know this may get some moans, but it's interesting how blair makes this statement shortly after trump criticises W over his inaction over 9/11. It's brought rather a lot of media focus onto the criminal bush family, thanks to jeb running for the republican nomination, wonder if he is regretting that? the statement trump made used to be only the preserve of michael moore,not even democrats but hardcore people on the left , now he's got fox talking about it and they are too scared of trump to mock him and dismiss him like they would moore. 9/11 happened under bush's watch as does the mess of the iraq war, the buck stops with him.And blair was a leading co conspirator. He looks worried.

    I think trump is putting the wind up a lot of people. I hope he is well protected.What ever will he say next?
     
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    Do you think he is sincere? or worried about his 'brand'. ?
     
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    I think we are just happy to see someone own up to it, even if they only take "Partial" responsibility. Its far better than we will ever get in the US.

    Also, lets remember how many people died for these so-called mistakes.
     
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    A lot of big corporations made lots of money off iraq war 2. Blair had some success in the kosovo war, and developed a messiah complex, believing he could solve the worlds problems. With his own strong religious beliefs, he was a perfect friend for the born again bible thumper W bush. He was a useful idiot, as was W for the big money men.Blair is wrongly characterised as Bush's poodle, no ,he was completely at one with the mission ,both him and bush saw themselves on a medieval type crusade to bring civilisation, democracy, to the middle east. And of course Bush wanted revenge over an attempt on his fathers life.


    These were no mistakes, and blair and bush as you put it, got many people killed, and it's not over yet.
     
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    A little bit of both, I think. Perhaps the British legal system allows him to admit a mistake without fear of litigation, unlike ours.
     
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    I remember the Bush blair poodle thing now :jj:

    That being said, this is the direct result of Right wing policies and the industrial war complex. You are correct, the Iraq war made a lot of men rich but at what cost to humanity?

    If we put another far right wing nut job in the Whitehouse you can expect more wars just like this one.
     
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    Cheney too.
     
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    Bush suckered Wiggy into passionately supporting the Iraq War. Will Wiggy now admit that he blew the biggest issue of his talk show career?
     
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