Politics Trump bossing Obama around already

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  1. ltd86

    ltd86 Racist Banned User

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    U.S. plans raids to deport families who surged across border


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    The Department of Homeland Security has begun preparing for a series of raids that would target for deportation hundreds of families who have flocked to the United States since the start of last year, according to people familiar with the operation.

    The nationwide campaign, to be carried out by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents as soon as early January, would be the first large-scale effort to deport families who have fled violence in Central America, those familiar with the plan said. More than 100,000 families with both adults and children have made the journey across the southwest border since last year, though this migration has largely been overshadowed by a related surge of unaccompanied minors.

    The ICE operation would target only adults and children who have already been ordered removed from the United States by an immigration judge, according to officials familiar with the undertaking, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because planning is ongoing and the operation has not been given final approval by DHS. The adults and children would be detained wherever they can be found and immediately deported. The number targeted is expected to be in the hundreds and possibly greater.

    The proposed deportations have been controversial inside the Obama administration, which has been discussing them for several months. DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson has been pushing for the moves, according to those with knowledge of the debate, in part because of a new spike in the number of illegal immigrants in recent months. Experts say that the violence that was a key factor in driving people to flee Central America last year has surged again, with the homicide rate in El Salvador reaching its highest level in a generation. A drought in the region has also prompted departures.

    The pressure for deportations has also mounted because of a recent court decision that ordered DHS to begin releasing families housed in detention centers.

    Although Johnson has signaled publicly for months that Central American families not granted asylum would face deportation, the plan is likely to trigger renewed backlash from Latino groups and immigrant advocates, who have long accused the administration of overly harsh detention policies even as Republicans deride President Obama as soft on border security.

    Advocates have not been briefed on the plans and on Wednesday expressed concern. They cited what they called flaws and abuses in the government’s treatment and legal processing of the families, many of whom are fleeing danger or persecution in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

    “It would be an outrage if the administration subjected Central American families to even more aggressive enforcement tactics,” said Gregory Chen, director of advocacy for the American Immigration Lawyers Association. “This administration has never acknowledged the truth: that these families are refugees seeking asylum who should be given humanitarian protection rather than being detained or rounded up. When other countries are welcoming far more refugees, the U.S. should be ashamed for using jails and even contemplating large-scale deportation tactics.”

    Groups that have called for stricter immigration limits said the raids are long overdue and remained skeptical about whether the scale would be large enough to deter future illegal immigration from Central America.

    “I’ll believe it when I see it,” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. “What share is this going to be?. . . It’s a drop in the bucket compared to the number they’ve admitted into the country. If you have photogenic raids on a few dozen illegal families and that’s the end of it, it’s just for show. It’s just a [public relations] thing, enforcement theater.”

    Marsha Catron, a DHS spokeswoman, would not comment on any possible ICE operations but pointed out that Johnson “has consistently said our border is not open to illegal immigration, and if individuals come here illegally, do not qualify for asylum or other relief, and have final orders of removal, they will be sent back consistent with our laws and our values.”


    The raids could become a flash point on the 2016 campaign trail, where GOP presidential contenders, including front-runner Donald Trump, have made calls for stricter border control a central issue. Trump’s rise has come as he has promised to deport all undocumented immigrants and bar entry to the United States for Muslim refugees in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, Calif., policy prescriptions denounced by Democratic candidates, including Hillary Clinton.

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    ltd86 Racist Banned User

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    Where are all the people calling Trump's plan racist? :jj:
     
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    ltd86 Racist Banned User

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    Never before has such an alpha male come along who, before a single vote is even cast, has so totally reshaped the political landscape in this country. Witnessing what is unfolding, how Trump has completely altered the conversation on illegals, border security, ISIS, Muslim immigration, trade, and foreign policy, is truly breathtaking.
     
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    I guess I missed the part where Obama calls them rapists and murderers.
     
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    ltd86 Racist Banned User

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    Trump said some of them were, which is completely true. It's no knock on Hispanics, it's a knock on criminals.

    People who feel comfortable breaking some laws are more likely to break other laws, too.


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    At least less than 1% commit arson. That makes me feel better.
     
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    It's a gift to Hilary.

    "See, look, crimmigrants aren't a problem! He's making it up cause nazis!" - narrative spring '16
     
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    Somebody post prison demographics in the pacific southwest for bethsucks, for fuckssake.
     
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    While illegal immigrants account for about 3.5 percent of the U.S population, they represented 36.7 percent of federal sentences in FY 2014 following criminal convictions, according to U.S. Sentencing Commission data obtained by Breitbart News.
    According to FY 2014 USSC data, of 74,911 sentencing cases, citizens accounted for 43,479 (or 58.0 percent), illegal immigrants accounted for 27,505 (or 36.7 percent), legal immigrants made up 3,017 (or 4.0 percent), and the remainder (about 1 percent) were cases in which the offender was either extradited or had an unknown status.

    Broken down by some of the primary offenses, illegal immigrants represented 16.8 percent of drug trafficking cases, 20.0 percent of kidnapping/hostage taking, 74.1 percent of drug possession, 12.3 percent of money laundering, and 12.0 percent of murder convictions.


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    It's all too confusing for him.

    Maybe that's why he pays extra for private school while living in a sanctuary city. :dontknow:
     
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    I live in San Diego where 9% of the population is undocumented, we have one of the lowest violent crime rates of large US cities and the lowest murder rate for large US cities for four years in a row.

    SD Union:
    March 7, 2015

    For the fourth year running, San Diego had the lowest murder rate among the country’s ten largest cities.

    The department investigated 32 homicides, down from 39, giving San Diego, the eighth largest city in the nation, a murder rate of 2.4 killings per 100,000 residents, according to data compiled by U-T San Diego.
     
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    You want a cookie for not having a bunch of black people?
     
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    ltd86 Racist Banned User

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    It's not the doctors and CEO's sneaking across, it's the Mexican equivalent of Baltimore and Detroit residents :grad:
     
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    Part of me thinks that people like Bethsucks gets off on minorities serving him.

    Personally, i'm alright with a 16 yr old white kid doing the jobs american's don't want to to do.

    I don't get that sense of superiority that bethsucks gets.
     
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    Somewhere along the line you missed that I am Mexican.
     
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    ltd86 Racist Banned User

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    American*

    :flag:
     
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    No, i didn't.

    Take your universal latino bullshit to the flyover country liberals here. I know Mexicans can't stand puerto ricans, who can't stand dominicans, who can't stand haitians, who can't stand central americans.

    Regardless, congrats on being white. You do realize that speaking spanish and being catholic came from whitey-ville, right?
     
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    Funny.

    Same retards that don't realize Salma Hayek is Lebansese. :jj: