Politics Trump Supports Nationwide Concealed-Carry

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    Donald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

    The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.

    The Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental right that belongs to all law-abiding Americans. The Constitution doesn’t create that right – it ensures that the government can’t take it away. Our Founding Fathers knew, and our Supreme Court has upheld, that the Second Amendment’s purpose is to guarantee our right to defend ourselves and our families. This is about self-defense, plain and simple.

    It’s been said that the Second Amendment is America’s first freedom. That’s because the Right to Keep and Bear Arms protects all our other rights. We are the only country in the world that has a Second Amendment. Protecting that freedom is imperative. Here’s how we will do that:

    Enforce The Laws On The Books

    We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals. The Obama administration’s record on that is abysmal. Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control. Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street. This needs to stop.

    Several years ago there was a tremendous program in Richmond, Virginia called Project Exile. It said that if a violent felon uses a gun to commit a crime, you will be prosecuted in federal court and go to prison for five years – no parole or early release. Obama’s former Attorney General, Eric Holder, called that a “cookie cutter” program. That’s ridiculous. I call that program a success. Murders committed with guns in Richmond decreased by over 60% when Project Exile was in place – in the first two years of the program alone, 350 armed felons were taken off the street.

    Why does that matter to law-abiding gun owners? Because they’re the ones who anti-gun politicians and the media blame when criminals misuse guns. We need to bring back and expand programs like Project Exile and get gang members and drug dealers off the street. When we do, crime will go down and our cities and communities will be safer places to live.

    Here’s another important way to fight crime – empower law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves. Law enforcement is great, they do a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere all of the time. Our personal protection is ultimately up to us. That’s why I’m a gun owner, that’s why I have a concealed carry permit, and that’s why tens of millions of Americans have concealed carry permits as well. It’s just common sense. To make America great again, we’re going to go after criminals and put the law back on the side of the law-abiding.

    Fix Our Broken Mental Health System

    Let’s be clear about this. Our mental health system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Too many politicians have ignored this problem for too long.

    All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years have something in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help. But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities. This is just common sense.

    And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it.

    We need real solutions to address real problems. Not grandstanding or political agendas.

    Defend The Rights of Law-Abiding Gun Owners

    GUN AND MAGAZINE BANS. Gun and magazine bans are a total failure. That’s been proven every time it’s been tried. Opponents of gun rights try to come up with scary sounding phrases like “assault weapons”, “military-style weapons” and “high capacity magazines” to confuse people. What they’re really talking about are popular semi-automatic rifles and standard magazines that are owned by tens of millions of Americans. Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own.

    BACKGROUND CHECKS. There has been a national background check system in place since 1998. Every time a person buys a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer – which is the overwhelming majority of all gun purchases – they go through a federal background check. Study after study has shown that very few criminals are stupid enough to try and pass a background check – they get their guns from friends/family members or by stealing them. So the overwhelming majority of people who go through background checks are law-abiding gun owners. When the system was created, gun owners were promised that it would be instant, accurate and fair. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case today. Too many states are failing to put criminal and mental health records into the system – and it should go without saying that a system’s only going to be as effective as the records that are put into it. What we need to do is fix the system we have and make it work as intended. What we don’t need to do is expand a broken system.

    NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

    MILITARY BASES AND RECRUITING CENTERS. Banning our military from carrying firearms on bases and at recruiting centers is ridiculous. We train our military how to safely and responsibly use firearms, but our current policies leave them defenseless. To make America great again, we need a strong military. To have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend themselves.

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    Can't disagree with any of it {waits for media's sure to come hysteria over his position}:cmon:
     
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    You know, I really don't wanna like this guy. He's clownish and arrogant...But this stance makes good good sense
     
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    Or the media can totally ignore it, since it doesn't fit their agenda.:bounce:
     
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    I don't know the numbers but it's a problem that I don't and I suspect many wouldn't know either.

    It's why I dislike the political fights that are so popular....a point that most would agree needs to be resolved just gets overlooked.

    For what it's worth I am not thrilled thinking someone with serious mental problems can drive a car. I have seen many that appear drunk and you pass them and see they are just a mess of anxiety.
     
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    'Fix Our Broken Mental Health System

    Let’s be clear about this. Our mental health system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Too many politicians have ignored this problem for too long.

    All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years have something in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help. But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities. This is just common sense.

    And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it.

    We need real solutions to address real problems. Not grandstanding or political agendas.'


    This is key ,however expanding treatment programmes, and if he is talking about taking more dangerous people off the streets for longer periods of time, this will cost a huge amount of money,To house them in secure places, treat and look after them. Unless he wants to expand how prisons are being used,because there isn't beds in secure hospitals. Just be clear I don't agree that prisons are the right places for these people. Trump also brought up another issue the other day with taking more off the streets, that you would possibly have to amend the current laws to make it legal, as apparently right now the laws are quite restrictive in terms of what powers states have over mentally ill people. He said he is a little worried that people with mental health issues who can function okayish who aren't dangerous ,might be dragged in.

    I also don't see he has brought up the possible links between medications such as SSRI's with these shootings. The brain is an extremely complicated part of the body as is the mind, and psychiatrists and neurologists don't actually understand it that well or how these medications effect people, when they sometimes have a beneficial effect and othertimes when they can make someones mental illness worse. Sometimes these meds do cause people to behave more destructively and take more risks, they have also been linked with suicides in some people.

    I don't see how you could restrict people from gun ownership who use these medications, because their use is so widespread, you would end up firing large numbers of police officers,soldiers, government employees,and many civilians who take these meds,who aren't effected like the above for whatever reason would not be happy if they have to hand their guns over.

    The problem as well is big pharmaceutical companies have a lot to lose , if they come under the microscope.but I do think if this is to be done properly there needs to be an honest conversation about if so many people need to be taking SSRI's for a large myriad of problems. They aren't just used for depression and anxiety some people are giving them because they can't sleep ....

    Iam glad Trump is talking about a large elephant in the room,when it comes to these shootings,it is frequently ignored , unfortunately it is a massive problem and won't be an easy one to solve.
     
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    Sometimes the medications they take can cause drowsiness, and slow their reactions down, they can even ironically cause anxiety and depression..... It's a tricky one, as without a car they may be unable to work for instance, but as you said it doesn't fill you with confidence to know they are driving perhaps not 100 percent . Also again the big drugs companies wouldn't be happy if people on their meds were banned from driving or banned from owning a gun , because perhaps less people would want to take their meds so they would make less money , and less doctors would prescribe them.

    Personally I think if you take antidepressants or antipsychotic drugs you shouldn't be allowed to drive or own a gun,if you get better and don't need the meds then perhaps the ban can be lifted ,but thats easy for me to say because I don't take them. But maybe if they started to make more restrictions, not as many people who perhaps don't need them would be taking them,and only people who were actually unwell would be.
     
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    I prefer to view it as: why the fuck didn't the professional politicians think of this shit? Really, it took Donald fucking trump to come up with this simple approach?
     
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    Wonder who wrote this thing for trump?
     
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    Nice way to Prioritize what is important for this country.:funny:

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    Good for Donald Trump - it is our constitutional right to own a gun. The more regulations to owning a gun only hurt the law abiding citizens.
    Chicago that has some of the strictest gun laws in the Country, and somehow all the rules and regulations do not hinder those criminals from acquiring guns.
     
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    Getting hi caliber support....
     
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    Their goal is maintaining and increasing power, nothing more.

    The will of the people is irrelevant, both sides prove that on a regular basis.
     
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    Are you one of the assholes that slam trump for not giving enough detail?
     
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    he makes sense, over and over again. he has reminded the sleeping and distracted and mashed down masses that there still exists The Constitution of the United States of America. for that reason he is the enemy of powers that be. i hope nothing bad happens to him.
     
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    Reciprocity , it's been talked about before but nothing is ever done, personally I agree with it 100% . Why the fuck should I worry about crossing a state line if I have the .357 under the seat .

    Total cluster-fuck

    http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html


    Something tells me the Republicans won't be fighting for " states rights " on this issue like they do everything else .
     
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    Who cares if he wrote it or not?
     
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    Should be very important to you. Unless you are one of those faggots who wants the government to give you free stuff.
     
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    Ugh worthless mouth breathers like him is the main reason I moved mostly to the Bar, where there are leftists that actually have logic. Rather than bring humor to the table when The conservatives are bringing in a bunch of facts on their side and stomping them in arguments.
     
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    If he can be a surf and be given the scraps off of The Obama families table, he'd be a happy man.
     
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