Politics Trump Taking Heat From All Corners For Criticizing Family Of Fallen Soldier

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    Donald Trump Criticizes Muslim Family of Slain U.S. Soldier, Drawing Ire
    Khizr Khan, whose son, Capt. Humayun Khan, died in Iraq serving in the Army, said Donald J. Trump "sacrificed nothing and no one."

    By TURNER COWLES on July 29, 2016. Photo by Jim Wilson/The New York Times.
    Donald J. Trump belittled the parents of a slain Muslim soldier who had strongly denounced Mr. Trump during the Democratic National Convention, saying that the soldier’s father had delivered the entire speech because his mother was not “allowed” to speak.

    Mr. Trump’s comments, in an interview with George Stephanopoulos of ABC News that will air on Sunday, drew quick and widespread condemnation and amplified calls for Republican leaders to distance themselves from their presidential nominee. With his implication that the soldier’s mother had not spoken because of female subservience expected in some traditional strains of Islam, his comments also inflamed his hostilities with American Muslims.

    Khizr Khan, the soldier’s father, lashed out at Mr. Trump in an interview on Saturday, saying his wife had not spoken at the convention because it was too painful for her to talk about her son’s death.

    Mr. Trump, he said, “is devoid of feeling the pain of a mother who has sacrificed her son.”

    Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, a rival of Mr. Trump’s in the Republican primaries who has refused to endorse him, castigated him on Twitter. “There’s only one way to talk about Gold Star parents: with honor and respect,” he wrote, using the term for surviving family members of those who died in war.

    And Hillary Clinton, Mr. Trump’s Democratic opponent, said he “was not a normal presidential candidate.”
    “Someone who attacks everybody has something missing,” she told a crowd at a campaign stop in Youngstown, Ohio. “I don’t know what it is. I’m not going to get into that.”

    Mr. Khan’s speech at the convention in Philadelphia was one of the most powerful given there. It was effectively the Democratic response to comments Mr. Trump has made implying many American Muslims have terrorist sympathies or stay silent when they know ones who do. Mr. Trump has called to ban Muslim immigration as a way to combat terrorism.

    At the convention, Mr. Khan spoke about how his 27-year-old son, Humayun Khan, an Army captain, died in a car bombing in 2004 in Iraq as he tried to save other troops.

    He criticized Mr. Trump, saying he “consistently smears the character of Muslims,” and pointedly challenged what sacrifices Mr. Trump had made. Holding a pocket-size copy of the Constitution, he asked if Mr. Trump had read it. Mr. Khan’s wife stood silently by his side.

    Mr. Trump told Mr. Stephanopoulos that Mr. Khan seemed like a “nice guy” and that he wished him “the best of luck.” But, he added, “If you look at his wife, she was standing there, she had nothing to say, she probably — maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say, you tell me.”

    Mr. Trump also told Maureen Dowd of The New York Times on Friday night, “I’d like to hear his wife say something.”

    In a statement late Saturday, Mr. Trump called Captain Khan a “hero,” and reiterated his belief that the United States should bar Muslims from entering the country.

    “While I feel deeply for the loss of his son,” he added, “Mr. Khan, who has never met me, has no right to stand in front of millions of people and claim I have never read the Constitution, (which is false) and say many other inaccurate things.”

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    A Vietnam veteran, left, held a sign criticizing Donald J. Trump as former President Bill Clinton greeted supporters at a rally on Saturday in Youngstown, Ohio. Ruth Fremson/The New York Times
    Even given Mr. Trump’s reputation for retaliating when attacked, his remarks about the Khans were startling. They called to mind one of his earliest counterpunches of the campaign, when he responded to criticism from Senator John McCain of Arizona, once a prisoner of war in Vietnam, by saying at a forum in Iowa, “I like people that weren’t captured.”

    But Mr. McCain has a long history in the public eye. The Khans, before their convention appearance, had none.

    “Trump is totally void of any decency because he is unaware of how to talk to a Gold Star family and how to speak to a Gold Star mother,” Mr. Khan said on Saturday.

    Ms. Khan did speak on Friday to MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell, saying she “cannot even come in the room where his pictures are.”

    When she saw her son’s photograph on the screen behind her on the stage in Philadelphia, she said, “I couldn’t take it.”

    “I controlled myself at that time,” she said, while choking back tears. “It is very hard.”

    In his interview with The Times, Mr. Khan said his wife had helped him craft his convention speech, and told him to remove certain attacks he had wanted to make against Mr. Trump.

    But on Saturday, he unmuzzled himself. “Unlike Donald Trump’s wife, I didn’t plagiarize my speech,” Mr. Khan said, referring to how several lines from a Michelle Obama speech found their way into Melania Trump’s address at the Republican National Convention.

    “I also wanted to talk about how he’s had three wives, and yet he talks about others’ ethics and their religion,” Mr. Khan said. “She said, ‘Don’t go to his level. We are paying tribute to our son.’”


    Mr. Trump’s comments provoked another avalanche of criticism on social media, and again put Republican leaders in a difficult position, facing new demands that they repudiate their presidential nominee.

    Even before Mr. Trump’s remarks to ABC News, Mr. Khan had asked that Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, and Paul D. Ryan, the House speaker, denounce Mr. Trump.

    On Saturday, neither directly addressed Mr. Trump’s new comments. Don Stewart, a spokesman for Mr. McConnell, referred to Mr. McConnell’s response last year that a ban on Muslims entering the United States would be unacceptable.

    AshLee Strong, a spokeswoman for Mr. Ryan, delivered a similar response: “The speaker has made clear many times that he rejects this idea, and himself has talked about how Muslim Americans have made the ultimate sacrifice for this country.”

    In the same ABC News interview, when Mr. Stephanopoulos said that Mr. Khan had pointed out that his family would not have been allowed into the United States under Mr. Trump’s proposed ban, the candidate replied, “He doesn’t know that.”

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    Mr. Trump, in an ABC interview that will air on Sunday, criticized a speech given by Khizr Khan. Nick Cote for The New York Times
    And when asked what he would say to the grieving father, Mr. Trump replied, “I’d say, ‘We’ve had a lot of problems with radical Islamic terrorism.’”

    Mr. Stephanopoulos also noted that Mr. Khan said that Mr. Trump had “sacrificed nothing,” and had lost no one.

    “I think I’ve made a lot of sacrifices,” Mr. Trump replied. “I’ve worked very, very hard. I’ve created thousands and thousands of jobs.”

    Some of the fiercest condemnations on Saturday came from Republicans who have argued — unsuccessfully to date — that Mr. Trump is unfit to be president.

    Tim Miller, a former communications director for Jeb Bush’s presidential campaign, called Mr. Trump’s comments “inhuman.”

    “Memo to Trump supporters,” Peter Wehner, a speechwriter for President George W. Bush, wrote on Twitter. “He’s a man of sadistic cruelty. With him there’s no bottom. Now go ahead & defend him.”

    Reihan Salam, a conservative writer for National Review and a frequent Trump critic, said that Mr. Trump had an opportunity to declare remorse for the Khans while still holding to his own views as a candidate.

    “He might have asked why Humayun Khan had died in the first place — because of a war that many, if not most, Americans regard as a tragic blunder,” he said.

    “There was really no benefit for Trump in suggesting that Ghazala Khan had been muzzled,” he added, “because she could easily come out and say that she had been too grief-stricken to speak, which she did.”

    Ibrahim Hooper, the spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said on Saturday, “It’s really despicable that anyone, let alone a presidential candidate, would choose to dishonor the service of an American who gave his life for this nation.”

    Ms. Khan, he said, “was obviously there to support her husband, who was offering what many people believe was the most impactful speech of the entire convention.”
     
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    Ya but he's Muzzie so it's ok
     
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    Did you hear about how much Bill Clinton loves balloons. What a kooky fella.
     
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    trump never knows when to quit... like when he lost the election attacking the Hispanic Judge....
    oh wait...
     
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    :lol:

    i think that was two days ago, does that mean that whole treason talking points thing is now dead?:jj:
     
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    Is there anyone in this country that deserves our respect more than a Gold Star Mother?

    Trump is an idiot. He blew this one and it's going to cost him.
     
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    I also liked how Trump claimed the NFL contacted him to complain about the dates of the debates and the NFL said that never happened.

    Man really lives in his own world
     
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    The hilarious thing about this election is that every one of these missteps people think will derail his campaign only make his supporters more rabid. :jj:
     
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    Kahizr Kahn is so good I would vote for him! Fuck Trump, fucking windbag who's never walked the walk in his life.
     
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    Nice response by Trump. "I have too read the constitution!" He reacts to criticism like a whiny baby, which is weird considering the guy is 70 years old.
     
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    He's seriously mentally ill. A fucking raving lunatic.
     
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    We dont have time nor is it worth it for us to have to sort these savages out.Im sure there are plenty of good muslims but for every good one there are 20 bad ones.Instead of this guy being mad at trump he should adress HIS people.
     
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    Can someone remind me again of what the clintons have sacrificed?

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    Hilldog had the nerve to lie to the families but donald trump is awful because he says insensitive things.
     
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    Funny, no one gets that upset when the families who lost sons in Benghazi are criticized and accused of being liars.
     
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    Further proof that trump can quite literally do or say anything, and his sheep will blindly follow. Un fucking real
     
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    http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/chris-sevens-mother-donald-trump-son/2016/07/25/id/740299/

    The mother of U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, killed in the 2012 attack in Benghazi, called on Donald Trump and the GOP to stop using her son's name in his presidential campaign.

    "I know for certain that Chris would not have wanted his name or memory used in that connection. I hope that there will be an immediate and permanent stop to this opportunistic and cynical use by the campaign,"
     
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    We have become Italy with crazy people running for office like that Porn Star. The only thing that's amazing is that it took this long.
     
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    I love how the mainstream media conveniently ignored this

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    Regardless of who peope are voting for, how can people sit back and accept the mainstream news manipulation and brain washing of the masses?
     
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    Almost as bad as calling the Mother of a dead American in Bengazhi a liar right?
     
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    Im 63 and won't be around for ever to see this country go down in flames if Hillary is elected and she lets in a flood of Muzzies.i worry for my children an grandkids.