Veterans, what is your opinion of Muhammad Ali?

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  1. gwartney

    gwartney Is there gas in the car? Gold

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    The reason I ask is because my next door neighbor is a former Viet Nam era Colonel. He must be in his 70s and he was talking about the champ calling him a draft dodger and he was disgusted that The Champ had 9 kids with more than one woman. He really didn't like Muhammad.

    I know there are probably not many Viet Nam era vets on here but I'm interested in the perspective of anyone who has served his or her country.

    BTW, my neighbor is a pretty bad racist. On top of that, he's crazy so I have reason to believe that his opinion is not typical.
     
  2. gwartney

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    Best Thread Ever
     
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  3. gwartney

    gwartney Is there gas in the car? Gold

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    I'm assuming that there are no vets logged in right now. No way it could just be a shit thread.
     
  4. babybear

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    guess you missed my comment.someone on here thought he was brave.
    no.
    my uncle,at 18 fought in Korea 50-53,then in his 20th yr. in the Army sent to Viet Nam 70-71
    left behind a pregnant wife and 3 children.
     
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    He's around
     
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    Draft dodging piece of shit.
     
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    Biggest bullshit artist of the 20th century. Right behind Cosby.
     
  8. JWC

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    He didn't dodge shit. He stood his ground and faced the consequences. He paid the price and he didn't flee the country.
     
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    Fuck the Vietnam war. My heart goes out to anyone who got drafted and went, but what purpose did the US have being there in the first place? Were the Viet Cong threatening America? Was your liberty under fire? Ali was 100% right to tell the government to go fuck themselves.
     
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    Is it OK to think he is a piece of shit because of how he treated Frazier?
     
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    The PO PO can think and do anything they want o_O
     
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    This
     
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    He was a draft dodger.......no doubt about it......
     
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    tecate PACOIMA!!! Banned User

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    :eek:If you aint man enuff to fight for your country yet you relish the money and fame that somebody else fought for and you stand behind your religion to avoid being shot at!

    get the fuck outta my country and take your ass to pakistan and pray over there.

    Just like frump hid behind his rich daddy and calls McCain n:rolleyes:ot a real hero.............................G.T.F.O fagget!:mad:
     
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    he could of had a cake job like they gave Elvis.
     
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    besides me,who here is old enough to remember the story.
    and not just read about it .
     
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    Hey bb. I marched against the war. I did not want to be drafted, and fortunately, got a high #. My dad took a bullet to the head in WW 2 and barely made it. This was the mind set I grew up with.

    The Ali issue is not black/white (no pun). He was one of 10,000's of guys, but stands out because of who he was.

    Would the 40,000 + dead like another chance to make the decision to fight or not fight? What would their parents say today, about whether they wished there sons had gone or not - to fight in Vietnam, where we played chess with Russia/China and lost all those boys - nothing changed except the filling of graveyards. And now Americans can go on a boat cruise down the Mekong River.
     
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    But it gave CCR so much good material to write songs aboot :hair::drummin::picking:
     
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    Ching, chang, chong.
     
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