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  1. shitcunt

    shitcunt Well-Known Member

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    So Walmart employees will just have to switch to awesome, free Obamacare. What's the big deal?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...care-policy-medicaid-obamacare_n_2220152.html
     
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    no care policy :yay:
     
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    HeinousMark Creepy-Ass Cracka VIP

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    Those employees should deny themselves ObamaCare, to prove how Patriotic they are :dontknow:
     
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    the medicare people will call them bums
     
  6. stripes

    stripes New Member VIP

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    the walmart model does seem to be out of wak. if your going to be a monopoly, close down all your major competition, kmart, sears, etc etc & bankrupt mom & pop stores all while scooping up the low hanging fruit of unskilled employees & pay them shit with few benies then be prepared for unionization, those employees are ripe for that, like it or not. especially while taking major worldwide profits i might add.
     
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    FlaFlaFlunkie Fabulous!

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    So you do recognize the utility of unions when faced with obscenely greedy corporations?
     
  8. stripes

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    read my lips, anytime mgt is not in synch with employees unions will step in. are unions a drag on the economy across the board in 2012? absolutely, are they a wake up call to some industry execs/mgt, absolutely.
     
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    another libtard that doesn't understand capitalism!!!!! disgusting!!!
     
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    a wake up to the need to crush progressive taker-union-scum at every turn
     
  11. stripes

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    or a wake up to improve employee relations & working conditions.:dontknow:
     
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    that's funny. I see what you did there
     
  13. I invented that

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    how do you feel about the apple model? they use slave labor and avoid u.s. taxes, yet they're the darling of the liberal crowd.
     
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    i like it because its made in the same sweatshops as the other plastic crap & yet the retail price is increased when they put the apple emblem on it.
    i saw a guy in the news who disected & reported on the latest apple product & he said it was all the old electronics from the last model.
     
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    they reluctantly added a 4" screen, nobody needs a bigger screen.:haha: consumer reports put galaxy s3 above iphone 5 on all carriers and 3rd place on verizon. fuckin apple telling you what you need.
     
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    they're happy campers
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    yummy, apple kool-aid:cheer:
     
  18. Goo For You

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    I think most historical success stories of the labor movement come from circumstances where skilled labor was highly valuable to the employers (because of high levels of productivity, scarcity, etc.). In such cases one can readily see how unions managed to take surplus from employers and give it to employees. Now, contrast these cases with the reality of today's retail and education industries, where employers can quickly teach employees all the necessary skills (in the case of WalMart through an elaborate self-learning scheme) and where it is not at all certain that increasing the number of employees will result in a better outcome (as in public education), respectively. Isn't it clear that in these latter cases 1) the workers' marginal value of labor is dubious and 2) therefore the adverse effects of unionization (i.e. extracting the surplus not from employers' profits but from other workers [favoring currently employed workers at the expense of potential new hires], taxpayers [as in education], and consumers [as in higher prices due to lower productivity]) are likely to be more prominent?

    It seems to me that leftists often make the mistake of assuming that unions can create productivity out of nothing. To avoid this trap, one good way may be to advocate enlightened consumership: In the case of WalMart, for example, it's probably a lot easier to teach people to shop at CostCo because they pay their workers better than to avoid destroying WalMart's productivity through forced unionization.
     
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    the flaw in your argument is that no one works at walmart, i am convinced of this everytime i go.
     
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    That is famously their business model. I think we the people have two options: either direct their activities (i.e. incentivize or marginalize them) through market-oriented approaches, or break their business model through forcing unionization on them, forcing them to become the next slowly dying giant (with all the bad things that tend to come with them).
     

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