Politics Want to see what civil forfeiture and the fake war on drugs gets you?

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  1. dawg

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    A 4.1 million police station of course. Fully equipped with a fleet of brand spanking new Dodge Chargers.

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    The Mississippi city of Richland has a new $4.1 million police station, a top-level training center and a fleet of black-and-white Dodge Charger police cars.

    All of it was paid for through civil forfeitures of property and cash seized during traffic stops of what police say were suspected drug runners on Interstate 20.

    Civil libertarians question the constitutionality of civil forfeiture, which has become a key part of revenue for state and local law enforcement agencies nationwide. Under the laws of many states, citizens can be deprived of their property or even cash if police merely suspect the owners to be involved in criminal activity.

    Mayor Mark Scarborough and police chief WR “Russel” James of Richland — population 7,033 and located south of Jackson on I-20 in Rankin County — say they’re not only giving city taxpayers a bargain, but they’re also helping do their part to stem the heavy drug trade that travels between Texas and Atlanta on I-20, which eventually trickles down to smaller cities like theirs.

    Lee McGrath, legislative counsel for the libertarian Institute for Justice, said the tide is turning on civil forfeiture in the nation.

    Both Montana and New Mexico have reformed their civil forfeiture systems, and former Attorney General Eric Holder announced a number of changes in civil forfeiture at the federal level.

    “Why legislative efforts (to reform civil forfeiture) in Mississippi and across the nation will ultimately succeed is because forfeiture is contrary to basic American principles,” McGrath said. “In Mississippi and across the United States, the American people believe a person is innocent until proven guilty. And so should his property. Forfeiture is contrary to that.

    “The American people believe in a separation of power between the legislative branch and the executive branch. Forfeiture is contrary to that as well. Forfeiture gives law enforcement and other members of the executive branch the sword and the purse. When those two combine, there is a high probability of corruption.”

    In Mississippi, the Institute for Justice gives Mississippi a D-plus for its laws on civil forfeiture. The state needs only a preponderance of evidence that the property is related to a crime, a lower standard than the beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard required for a criminal conviction. McGrath said property owners in Mississippi can be acquitted in a criminal proceeding, but still lose their property since those claims are contested in civil court, where the burden of proof is on the property owner, not the state.

    The state also doesn’t require police to collect or report data on forfeiture use or proceeds.

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    that's nuts.
     
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    Highway robbery, literally.
     
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    I hope they also bought a tank and riot shields. :c
     
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    You should apply there Lemmy, you get a Dodge charger.
     
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    Crap cars. Utter crap.
     
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    i wonder how many vacations get paid for :uhuh:
     
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    Seriously, I cast aspersions on both sides of the aisle for this bukkake of taxpayers' money. The war on drugs is a gigantic waste of money and for every "free" $4 million police station, we are locking up dumb kids at the bargain price of 45K to 65K per person per year plus admin and legal costs. How about we stop subsidizing public prison unions and private "correction facilities" and put, oh I don't know, maybe murderers, rapists and child molesters in the clink and spare the Dime Bag Darryls of this world. Fucking farce the whole way down.
     
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    This ain't hot rod magazine Pal
     
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    I am sure some cities warrant a 4 million dollar police station however, this is a town of 7k people. I am sure they got one or two real drug traffickers, but how many innocent people were terrorized out of their property?
     
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    Well said, counsel...
     
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    Know what really Pisses me off? Some districts have so much extra capital at the end of the year that they need to buy surplus military hardware (the shit Obama announced that he'd outlaw today) yet other districts are so hard up for money that they need to pursue excuses to steal from the people they pull over.

    This is a huge fault with our federal system and another reason that we cannot continue to turn a blind eye to ineffective leadership caused by career politicians
     
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    To protect and serve? Is this the real story, robin?
     
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    Sorry Lem, they don't make Grand Nationals anymore.
     
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    :jumpclap:
     
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    They look better all black but that is probably too "intimidating".
     
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    never been there and don't plan on going anywhere near the southern tier of states.
     
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    LOL, Dodge/Chrysler

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    Grand National was a fine car. But I agree the new chargers are garbage. I've driven two in the last year and they are cinder blocks with an impressive sounding lawn mower engine attached.
     
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    This is why Americans never leave their houses.
     
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