Was Howard Always a Dick?

Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by TaTa Toothy, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. TaTa Toothy

    TaTa Toothy New Member

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    That is the question I've been struggling with for sometime. Was Howard always a lying, jealous, cheap scumbag from the very beginning and I was just to blindly loyal to see it? Or, did he gradually change as the years rolled by and the money rolled in?

    I confess, there were times back in the day when Howard appeared to be a dickbag, but I turned my head away in denyal. Through the years there was plenty of times I spotted a chink in the armour, but put on the blinders. Early in the NBC days, I thought he treated Soupy Sales pretty badly. Now, I never minded whhen Howard turned rabid dog on a rival or someone who badmouthed him, but I don't think Soupy ever said one negative thing about him (at least on air). If my memory is faulty, someone here will set me straight.

    Then, when he insisted HE have a limo pick him up for work because Imus had one, I thought, well okay, I guess that's a little petty, but, why not. Imus got one. Still, even then, in the back of my mind a little voice was saying, "Hey, I thought Howard was one of us. A regular working stiff. He really needs a limo to drive him to work?". I dismissed that notion thinking, hey, chalk up one for the little guy. Win!

    There were times when Howards ugly side really emerged on the air, when it went from a rant to a screaming maniac about to have a stroke. Or, when he just ripped Gary a new asshole over a tiny mistake (yeah, Gary has made some major blunders in the past, but a lot of times it was mostly stupid little stuff too) where I felt really horrible for Booey. I stuck up for Howard then too. Hey, the guy works hard. He's just letting off a little steam. In the back of my mind the voice screamed, "Hey, have been Gary in some past jobs. Would you worship a boss who treated you like that?" The answer of course is no.

    His so easily casting aside Jackie and Billy (hearts and souls of the show) over money. Hey, Jackie wasn't starving back then, but poor Billy was earning peanuts and delivering HUGE laughs (in part due to Jackie feeding him lines), but Stern's greed and ego got in the way.

    I fully backed him when he ran for governor of NY. Then he backed out when he had to disclose his earnings. We were bamboozed again. It was all a bit. Funny thing was, I honestly believed he actually could have won had he stayed in.

    I can give countless examples of Howard being a jealous, petty, jerk and all through the years I overlooked it. Even defended him. Now things are diffrent. I'm older, hopefully wiser, more cynical. I listen to clips of the old shows, the Golden Age of Stern and don't find them as funny. I hear Howard boast, and self promote, exagerate and and straight out lie even then. Now, everything seems like it was a bit (maybe it was). What I used to believe was raw, honest radio appears to have been all bullshit. Didn't notice it as much then, but now it just slaps me in the face.

    I'm a guy who woke up 4:00 am to take the train into the city and then wait on line outside Barns & Nobels for his first book signing. When I decided to move out of New York I had to be certain that Howard was syndicated to where I was moving or I'd move somewhere else that did. I endlessly argued with my dad that Howard was a greater radio star than Rush Limbaugh. I boycotted what Howard was against and supported what he was for. I was a fan. A diehard fan.

    I don't want to believe I was so dumb and nieve, but I guess maybe I was. How do you guys see it? Were we all fools. Am I overreaching? Have I become so bitter in recent years that it has forever tarished my memory of the good years? I need guidence.
     
  2. Mark Mayonnaise

    Mark Mayonnaise You look like a tree! VIP

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    If I wanted to read War and Peace I'd go to the fucking library, cocksucker
     
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    That's all I had time to read. The answer is YES. You could've saved both of us a lot of time. :D
     
  5. harlock

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    he used to have a very funny and compelling show, that goes a long way in helping ignore him being an asshole.
     
  6. TaTa Toothy

    TaTa Toothy New Member

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    You know what? I wrote the fucking thing and even I don't wanna read all tha rambling shit.

    Sorry, my a/c went hot. It's hot. I'm cranky.

    What a shit thread. :shit:
     
  7. usedtampon

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    He was always a dick. But he was OUR dick.
     
  8. Lou Cypher

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    I'm sure it's great. :D
    I'm just heading out again, but I'll make time to read it later. When people are moved to write long, essay-like opinion pieces, they're generally very passionate. :)
     
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    :sgay:
     
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    Tata Toothy, don't be so hard on yourself. It was a good post and I read the whole thing, agreeing with all your points.

    I suppose yes, he was always the vile, wretched person we now know him to be. We just didn't know it at first. Originally, his hyperbole was a fun jaunt for everyone. He was young and energetic and had something to lose then.

    Now, it's as if the same words are being spoken but from a wholly-taciturn, evil, selfish, vile creature.
     
  11. Murcielago

    Murcielago Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast

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    Biggest change was turning from a somewhat honest and self-deprecating individual into a lying, self-aggrandizing phony on a level that would make Kathie Lee Gifford cringe.
     
  12. Just Peachy

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    Truer words.... ;)
     
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    Best drummer ever .
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    The schtick he had years ago was act like a regular guy with a regular life and then whine about everyday problems to your audience so they can possibly relate - without mentioning the fact that youre a 30 year old millionaire who works 20 hours a week. Then he outwardly became the asshole he always was once he suckered his audience(and employers) into believing that he was a regular guy and actually gave a shit.
     
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    He was a dick, he's evolved into an asshole.
     
  16. j shmuck

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    I always thought he was an on-air dick/ballbuster to his co-workers and underlings. He was also an on air dick to basically all celebrites and often gave his wife a real ballbusting. Nevertheless off the air I pictured him as a rather quiet, down to earth, faithful husband, and family guy. Someone who despite making roughly 20 mil a year enjoyed the simple things in life.

    Now a days I wouldn't classify him necessarily as a dick but a major whiny, attention seeking douche who holds up in his mansion alone like citizen kane in xanadu
     
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    He was always a dick and an asshole but he used to be a funny dick and asshole. Now he is just a self obsessed neurotic douchbag that only wants to talk about a shitty TV show. Not funny no more.
     
  18. j shmuck

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    I think to a certain extent he was a regular guy back then despite being a multi millionaire.

    Like alot of us he just wanted to go home, sit in his basement, jerk off to porn and watch tv. Her certainly didn't attend any hamptons parties but instead went to strip clubs with friends and played poker.

    That life went away once beth came in the picture
    pretty much dropped most of his old friends, no more poker games or strip ckubs

    he's still often found alone jerking off though, because his wife is out (instead of upstairs taking care of three kids)
     
  19. itpdude

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    No idea what you said. . . . mesmerized by avatar gif. . . . . .
     
  20. Fuzz Nuts

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    I can't hear myself talk either....