Was the murder of Chris Lane a hate crime?

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  1. dawg

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    http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/justice/australia-student-killed-oklahoma/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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    i want Obama to get up before the country and announce how that could just as easily been him.
     
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    fuck yes it was a hate crime
     
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    This whole thing makes me sick and some how the death penalty is not on the table
     
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    the death penalty is too good for them
     
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    Dawg, I'm starting to think you're a masochist, this thread is not going to go well. :jj:
     
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    It's all over the news bro. We might as well discuss it because we can no longer ignore it.
     
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    It was absolutely a hate crime, and should be treated as such.
     
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    If you want my take, I think that this whole idea of "hate crimes" is nonsense, sentencing should not be based on motivation but the crime itself.
     
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    Racist hate crime.
     
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    When is Holder going to authorize a Federal investigation? :dontknow:
     
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    100% yes.Flip the script and have 3 white boys kill a black man because they where "bored". The civil rights people would be marching to that town screaming injustice.
     
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    Of course not! It's not racist if a black person does it
     
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    Yes.

    But what premedited murders arent hate crimes? Seriously, I have no clear idea of where "hate crimes" begin and end... would race/religion/sexual orientation have to be motive or is it simply where one group happens to commit a crime against another distinct group?

    I really dont know.:dontknow:
     
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    http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/22/viewpoint-dont-ignore-race-in-christopher-lanes-murder/
     
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    "Hate Crimes" are when someone's civil rights were violated based on race/religion/sexual orientation, and carry extra/heavier sentences.
     
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    Probably. But I think these turds would kill for any reason.
     
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    Should they be given the death penalty?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    this hate crime stuff is just BS so evangelical politicians can label something that is not unusual. nobody was ever callously killed because the killer loved the victim, so to make up a special label for something that normal and is not one of a number of alternate and mutually exclusive cases can only be political.

    so if we remove the label, then we have to accurately describe the crime as negligently willfull premeditated murder with a total disregard for human life.

    these things dehumanized Lane. they deserve punishment solely for crime of heinous premeditated murder (murder 1), and they need to be removed from society. i don't even want their bodies used as fertilizer: burn them, crush the remains, burn them again until there is nothing left but ash, them mix it in concrete and dump it in the deep ocean.