Was the Vito Spatafore story line the one and only misstep in The Sopranos?

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  1. Mlaw

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    So, I've been watching The Sopranos again, started with season 1 and am now at the end of Season 6 Part 1. I consider the show to be the greatest modern drama of my generation. However, re-watching the story line about Vito, it seems completely unnecessary. I don't quarrel with the general premise of writing about a gay "capo", but the whole trip to New Hampshire seemed out of place to me. It didn't really advance the story, other than coming to the conclusion that Vito couldn't put "this thing of ours" behind him.

    Thoughts, comments, agree, disagree?

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    the Vito at Jimmy Johns is tits :up:
     
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    go on :munch:
     
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    Without that story arc we wouldn't have this

    [video=youtube;Zgu7djuloZs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgu7djuloZs[/video]
     
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    the casting and anything focused on AJ was a misstep.

    i actually liked the nh storyline. thought it showed how addicted they were to the 'lifestyle' to the point that vito would risk certain death to get back in. kinda like ray liotta sounding depressed about egg noodles and ketchup at the end of goodfellas.
     
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    It was probably a little over the top but I think the show took chances. Sometimes it worked out and sometimes it didn't.

    One of my absolute favorite shows though.
     
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    make sure to order it WITH the hot peppers :dinner:
     
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    oops

    I meant :lunch:
     
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    I have to say, I wish people would buy the blu-rays. This is discussed in depth on the extras, but the entire Vito plotline was based on a real gay capo and the publicly released wiretaps of the real life equivalent of Phil Leotardo who had him whacked (it was almost straight from the life, the guy also went on the lam but ultimately came back). But to your point, I absolutely think it advanced the story, the whole point of it was tying into the season 6 theme, which is that it's far easier to take the more comfortable path in life, even though it's unethical, than stick to some semblance of ethics and morality. Vito could have had a decent life, and even lived as he truly was, but he couldn't stand to work for a living and struggle to get by, while having no influence or social standing.

    The whole sequence was meant to be a parallel to Tony; Tony went on "the lam" to his own subconscious, and found his true self. So basically, Uncle Junior shooting Tony forced him to abandon the fantasy he still clung to (as Dr. Melphi told him, he was substituting Junior for his mother and trying to earn the love he secretly knew he could never have), as well as the fantasy that his life of crime would never catch up to him or impact his family (and that it was in their best interest). Vito's fantasy of life as a heterosexual mafioso too was cut short with Tony living his "real" life as just another generic middle class salesman, and Vito living life as an openly gay man. Both, ultimately, were given a choice about how to live, AND BOTH REJECTED IT AND DIED FOR IT. Tony was whacked by the man in the member's only jacket after ignoring the lessons he had learned and being worse than ever, Phil Leotardo whacked Vito for coming back when he could have staid and lived an honest, though difficult, life. The whole thing was supposed to be a clue to help you figure out the ending, but people didn't pick up on it in large numbers.
     
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    It's been awhile since watching that but wasn't the storyline loosely based on the irl Jersey family boss who was a homo and wacked for it?
     
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    How so? (re:AJ)
     
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    I appreciate your analysis, except for the part about Tony dying---I never bought that as the ending
     
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    I think people have an issue more with the actor who played him and the way he came across, but I loved his character development in season 6. Another parallel with Tony and Vito, culminating in the suicide attempt, where he too goes on the lam to a psych ward, then a momentary recognition of his own true self and a choice, and a rejection of that choice. He doesn't go into the army, he's bought off by Tony with a BMW and a job with Little Carmine, and follows the same path as Tony and Vito.
     
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    Chase confirmed it, more or less, a few months ago. Read that page and the update. :coffee:
     
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    They never explained what happened after the Pine Barons <sp> episode. That was a big plot hole, IMHO.
     
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    David Chase himself read that article and says it's off the mark.
     
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    i have said that all along. not sure why they went there. also, it was very long
     
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    Can't say I cared for the trip to France.