Politics Washington Post 'Lied' about what Trump said about McCain

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  1. Tiggs

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    https://sharylattkisson.com/fact-check-the-washington-post-on-donald-trump-and-john-mccain/

    Donald Trump appears to have gotten under the skin of not only Democrats, but also fellow Republicans and the news media. Has that subjected Trump, a Republican presidential candidate, to unfair and/or inaccurate reporting?

    An article in the Washington Post today is headlined, “Trump slams McCain for being ‘captured’ in Vietnam.”

    The article’s lead sentence states, “Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump slammed Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a decorated Vietnam War veteran, on Saturday by saying McCain was not a war hero because he was captured by the North Vietnamese [emphasis added].”

    Is this report accurate?

    In fact, Trump’s actual quote is the opposite of what is presented in the Post’s first sentence.

    Discussion

    1. The Post did not provide context at the outset disclosing that McCain and Trump have been feuding, with McCain characterizing some Trump supporters as “crazies” and Trump stating that McCain graduated last in his class in Annapolis. The charged rhetoric continued at the conservative Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa this weekend.

    2. When a panelist characterized McCain as a “war hero,” the Post is accurate in reporting that Trump initially said McCain is “not a war hero.” But then, Trump immediately modified his statement saying– four times– that McCain is a war hero:

    “He is a war hero.”

    “He’s a war hero because he was captured.”

    “He’s a war hero, because he was captured.”

    “I believe, perhaps, he’s a war hero. But right now, he’s said some very bad things about a lot of people.”

    3. Did Trump say McCain is not a war hero because he was captured? No, not in the exchanges represented in the Post.

    4. Is the Post’s characterization an accident? It would appear not, because it is repeated in the Post’s caption of the video clip, which also states: “Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a decorated Vietnam war veteran, was not a war hero because he was captured by the North Vietnamese [emphasis added].”

    Further, in the Post’s second sentence, Trump is quoted as stating of McCain, “He’s not a war hero…He’s a war hero because he was captured,” but the article selectively left out the phrase Trump had uttered in between: “He is a war hero.”

    Conclusion

    Trump actually said the opposite of what the Post lead sentence and video caption claim. The Post might have been able to get away stating that Trump “implied” McCain was not a war hero because McCain was captured, but even that would have been a subjective interpretation since Trump had actually stated the opposite.

    It’s true that Trump stated one time that McCain is not a war hero. But Trump stated four times that McCain is a war hero–and that was not accurately characterized in the article.

    For interpreting and characterizing Trump’s true quote in a way that is at best questionable, and for selectively using some quotes and leaving others out, the Post receives Two Little Devils. (Ratings scale at end of article.)

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    Obviously, all are free to draw conclusions about any candidate or politician. But the news media has a responsibility to do its best to report accurately and fairly–even when reporters find a candidate and/or his positions to be personally distasteful.
     
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    umm, they missed the part that where he said" I like people who weren't captured" when speaking of McCain
     
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    Trump a big Ma Cain supporterwhen he ran for president.
     
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    Are Veteran groups lying also?

    A group that supports veterans condemned Donald Trump's criticism on John McCain's military service.

    "Donald Trump's attacks against Senator McCain today are the height of arrogance and reveal that he has no understanding of what our Vietnam POWs endured and the honor they displayed during their captivity—Senator McCain among them," CEO of Concerned Veterans for America Pete Hegseth said in a statement.


    The moderator, Republican pollster Frank Luntz, described McCain as "a war hero." McCain spent more than five years as a prisoner of war after his plane was shot down during combat in Vietnam.



    Trump said McCain "is a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured."
     
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    Something happened to cause this BS
     
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    Read the article above. Trump clarified four times that MccAin is a war hero


    "When a panelist characterized McCain as a “war hero,” the Post is accurate in reporting that Trump initially said McCain is “not a war hero.” But then, Trump immediately modified his statement saying– four times– that McCain is a war hero:"

    Post conveniently left that out. Other parties are just reacting to what they read...which was factually incorrect.
     
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    Relevant content starts at around 20 second mark

     
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    Slow My name is my name DawgShed News

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    Just like they took Trump's comments about Mexicans out of context. The media sees a politician that isn't playing the usual game and they are out for blood.
     
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    No he did not modify his statement and call him a war hereo--

    "He's not a war hero," Trump said. "He's a war hero because he was captured, I like people who weren't captured, I hate to tell you, he's a war hero because he was captured."

    "Perhaps he's a war hero, but right now, he's said bad things about a lot of people,' Trump added.




    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-john-mccain-war-hero-2015-7#ixzz3gOBWE3rx
     
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    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    Boy there is some serious ass discussion involved in politics these days. "He said he wasn't a hero!"
     
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    that is the only way they can beat down his credibility because he has been right about so many other taboo subjects.
     
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    McCain is considered a war hero because he was captured. What Trump said is absolutely true. Nobody knows the name of thousands that weren't captured, or some of them that were captured but were not Admiral's son. Trump is absolutely right. Media absolutely did biased reporting as subject was what McCain said about Trump's supporters.
     
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    Trump's not a politician. He's even more of a joke than the average politician.
     
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    :rofl: what kind of loser defends Donald trump? :jj:
     
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    McCain became a hero the day he signed up for military service IMO. And about what Trump said - I thought it was kind of funny at first. If he had just said it was a bit of tongue-in-cheek it would have be OK.
     
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    The ones that don't have to depend on Obama for a phone:jumping:
     
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    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    Yeah, facts are for losers now. He should get with the times.
     
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    And bill Clinton called Obama a race baiter when his wife was running against him. This is how politics works
     
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    why we need to read an article to tell us whats in a video, when we can watch the video ourselfs? :dontknow:
     
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