we know about the "blue wall of silence" and that pastors do horrible things

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  1. Harry Gibbs

    Harry Gibbs the boss of all men

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    so why do we still give so much automatic credibility to what cops and clergy members have to say, particularly as witnesses in court cases or criminal proceedings?
     
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    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/03/07/fall-river-man-arrested-for-videotaping-police-officer/

    FALL RIVER (CBS) – A Fall River man says he was recording a police officer who was out of control, but instead, he was arrested and his cell phone was seized.


    Now the video he recorded is gone. Police say he erased it, even though they were the ones holding the phone.


    George Thompson says last January he was just sitting on his front porch, watching a Fall River police officer working a paid detail. Thompson says the officer was on his phone and was swearing very loud.


    That’s when Thompson pulled out his phone. Thompson says Officer Tom Barboza then rushed him and arrested him, charging him with unlawful wiretapping.


    But in Massachusetts it’s perfectly legal to record video and audio of a public official, including police, as long as they are performing their duties and the recording isn’t hidden. Barboza’s own police report shows that Thompson acknowledged he was recording the officer.


    “I think we all have our basic rights and I think people should not record others secretly or surreptitiously,” Fall River Police Chief Daniel Racine told WPRI.

    Thompson was released from jail, but police kept his phone and that’s where the story takes an interesting turn.


    Thompson claims that two days after his arrest, his phone, which was locked up at the police station, somehow had all of the video erased.


    “If a Fall River police officer erased that video, he’s fired,” Chief Racine said. “And I would suspect the district attorney would take out charges.”


    George Thompson is not buying it. “They’re investigating themselves and there’s a code of blue and everybody knows that,” Thompson says.
     
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    Lol wut?
     
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    Deep man.
     
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    thanks obongo
     
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    :lemmy:
     
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    FTR cops are a necessary evil and IMO I'm not crazy about the idea of people sticking cameras in their faces, simply for the sake of doing so. I'm all for uncovering abuses, but hassling them is out of hand. You see a bunch of vids these days where kids are taunting cops with cameras....not a good thing
     
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    cops are necessary. paramilitary police forces are not. and automatically trusting police officers to be honest is insane.

    i do completely support filming of cops at every moment they are on the job.
     
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    Harry Gibbs the boss of all men

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    you're one of the good ones, buddy.
     
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    :rofl:
     
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    Agree with the paramilitary thing... If you don't have some assumption of trust, then why have them? Disagree on the filming them 24/7... Would you like that on your job?
     
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    I thought that link would be for Washington DC. :doh:
     
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    LOL, brilliant post reps
     
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    Harry Gibbs the boss of all men

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    i wouldn't like it on my job, but on my job i can't lock people up or kill them purposely. i think that deserves a little oversight. we're videotaped when we walk on the side walk, go into stores, drive through stop lights. certainly the cops should have more oversight than civilians, given the power we grant them for no real good reason other than they completed a year or two of vo-tech.
     
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    Same thing with cops and clergy. 99% are good. When they aren't, the crime is a bit more heinous than normal so it makes a lot of publicity. The publicity makes it seem like all of them are bad. Plus, people don't tend to make an effort to praise, but they will go way out of their way to complain.
     
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    i'm not sure i'd go with 99% number, but i agree with you mostly. i do think many, but not necessarily most, people make it a point to point out when a cop does something good or is particularly helpful. but most do make sure everyone knows when a cop or clergy fucks up.

    it's reminiscent of how people on welfare are more often having to get drug tested to get their benefits, but politicians are not drug tested. doesn't make sense. people in power should have at least as much, if not more, oversight than the pleebs.
     
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    I just pulled the 99% out of my ass.
     
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    that's cool. i pretty much do that with everything. :c
     
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    Um, he said "out". :c