I just listened to a youtube of today's show. I fold my t.p. and never even considered bunching up a ball like pluggy. I fold a square and a half over twice(3 layers) and can even fold that whole thing after a wipe if its light on 'color'. I use the extra strength Charmin. After a few wipes with paper, I go to the moist wipes. Is the vast majority 'ballers' or 'folders'?