Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by Mutt Sucks, Apr 21, 2013.
...are there any colored ones on either side? might make this go faster.
they are all a bunch of fundamentalist assholes...
The Tea Party wants the government to spend as much as it takes in.
The ultra liberals have no concern at all for spending. They'll borrow until Oblivion, and Oblivion is in theaters now.
I'm always amazed at people who are against the idea of responsible spending. Gee, what a terrible concept.
isn't there a special place for inane political discussion that goes nowhere?
What exactly is the Tea Party? Do they hold primaries? Do they elect leadership? What's their platform? Why didn't we have a "Tea Party" candidate on the ballot last November?
Other than being used as a pejoritive, much like "Haliburton blahblahblah(which the Obama Administration still uses w/o much complaint from the same people, apparently), and being a catch-all for those with the insanely out-of-this-world scary and whacky ideas of lower taxes and more control over our government(wtf do you think the original tea party was about?) I have little idea of who they are or what they stand for. And I strongly suspect they can't agree on any of it either.
I guess the "teabagger" hook line was just so catchy, you couldn't resist.
I'd say the vast majority of working Americans believe in responsible spending, where the Tea Party falls short with many, including myself, is their desire to impose their version of morality onto everyone else. If people really believed in the concepts of the original tea party they would want the government out of their lives not a government controlling how individuals choose to live their lives.
who is worse, is people who falsely label others as "tea party" or "ultra liberals".
you can probably count on 1 hand the politicians who are truly either
I am not a Tea Party guy, but here are their beliefs (from their website):
15 Non-negotiable Core Beliefs
1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
3. A strong military is essential.
4. Special interests must be eliminated.
5. Gun ownership is sacred.
6. Government must be downsized.
7. The national budget must be balanced.
8. Deficit spending must end.
9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
14. English as our core language is required.
15. Traditional family values are encouraged.
Are those things so terrible?
One wants ALL of US to keep most of what we earn and for the government to incinerate less of the treasure WE work for.
The other wants ALL of US to submit to those who "know" best, hop to and fall in line.
What do I win?
Hate them both.
except that ryan voted for bams tax plan.
except that palin was their top dog, and she implemented the highest taxes of any politician in decades.
maybe im confused on who the tea party politicians are.
Those are great.
Unfortunately the people most often associated with the Tea Party are people like Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and that whole host of failed candidates that seemed intent on imposing a rigid, quasi religious government on the people of this country. Successful candidates associated with the Tea Party like Marco Rubio have downplayed the social issue aspects of the movement while focusing on the more libertarian aspects of the beliefs you posted above.
there is no such thing as "the tea party." they were political gatherings to talk about how the government is too big and too expensive. it was a movement, not a political party. following, several entities tried to co-opt the name and use its popularity to force their own agendas on others.
The problem with the Tea Party is they completely ignore the fact that it's the global corporations and not the government which is causing the issues with US middle class. If Obama farts in the Oval Office they want to impeach him but corporations can basically do anything they want to the middle class and the Tea Party will completely ignore it.
Balancing the budget, while a noble idea, is not going to decrease the unemployment rate, lower healthcare costs, or raise the US standard of living. In fact if the government stops spending it will only speed up our decline.
lets be real. theres no such thing as the 'tea party' party. and most of the people glomming onto it care nothing about issues, but wisely used it to temporarily separate from a rep. brand that was weak at the time.
i remember the first bill the supposed tea party ppl voted on, which was to extend unemployment forever
the tea party... although the original question is flawed... The ultra liberals (democrats) should be contrasted by the GOP... With today's tea party, though, the comparison holds. First, the tea party was a great idea when it got started. It stood for one thing: fiscal responsibility. People in the movement didn't care whether you wanted an abortion or not (they didn't take a side) the argument was: should the government pay for something when there are other things more important (i.e. defense). Basically, balance the budget first, then offer whatever social programs you want, prioritize them and don't implement them before theyre funded. Seems like the same message every one of us lives with on an everyday basis at home. The problem became that the party message was too strong, forcing out some GOP congressmen, even threatening some democrats. Both GOP and the dems needed to squish the tea party before it became a viable third party. Like rand paul or hate him, the tea party got their candidates elected, something the greens never could have figured out. The GOP absorbed the tea partiers, playing on the fact that they had a weak message/organization. They simply took over what was left of when the dems demonized them... The tea party of today is nothing more than GOP controlled puppets or dem posterboys. Its like a really hot chick that fucked 1,000 black dudes. I still like the original tea party message (youtube: rick santorum, tea party) because its something you can apply to your everyday life and be successful. You simply cannot do that with the liberal message.