Who is to blame (percentage wise) for the death of this young black man?

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  1. Lucky Pierre

    Lucky Pierre Well-Known Member

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    Here are the players:


    Meet Kendrec McDade.... 17 year-old unarmed black kid who decided to steal a backpack with a computer laptop in Pasadena, CA.

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    Meet Oscar Carrillo-Gonzalez, a 26 year-old illegal alien (was already deported back to Mexico once before in 2006) who, after his backpack was stolen, lied and told the 911 operator he was robbed at gunpoint because he wanted the police to respond faster.

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    Meet the trigger-happy Pasadena police who, thinking they had an armed and dangerous criminal on their hands, fatally shot McDade 7 times after he made a 'sudden movement' towards his waistband.

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    Meet 'The Community' who, as usual, is outraged

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    And finally, the media... who loves stories where they can exploit race-based victimization

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/05/oscar-carrillo-gonzalez-kendrec-mcdade-_n_1406035.html
     
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  2. Popeye Saavedra

    Popeye Saavedra Well-Known Member

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    Black kid is 100% responsible for his own death. He is the ultimate cause in this scenario. Without him, the rest of the events would not have unfolded. Fuck him. One less thief we gotta worry about.
     
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    Lucky Pierre Well-Known Member

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    True, but come on... the punishment for a teenager stealing a backpack is death?
     
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    sternski New Member Banned User

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    this.....i feel sorry most for the people protesting the jerkoffs death...look at the strife the retards caused the retards.
     
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    Popeye Saavedra Well-Known Member

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    It wasn't "punishment" per se. Not really appropriate to think of it in this way since at no time did anyone involved intend of having this kid killed because he stole. The kid's actions led to unforeseen consequences. But ultimately he caused them. I think that this is an important lesson for people. Your actions have intended and unintended consequences. Think carefully about the decisions you make in your lives.

    Just so you know, I'm a pretty hardcore liberal and yet I don't feel bad at all for this kid. He chose his path and it ended up in his own death.
     
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    Lemmy Douchebag Extraordinaire Gold

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    I think there should be the death penalty for any theft. Too many people work hard for what they have and some asshole just takes it. Fuck 'em.
     
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    If he didn't steal, he wouldn't be dead. End of story.
     
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    Popeye Saavedra Well-Known Member

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    This is the one thing many Arab countries have right. You steal, they chop off your hands or stone you. Recidivism is very low in these countries.
     
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    What % of teenagers have never stolen anything?
     
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    Reps.
     
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    What does that matter? In this case he stole and paid the price. It was a bad call Ripley, it was a bad call.
     
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    This is an important life lesson for them. Don't steal or you might die.
     
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    I didn't read the article (lazy) but if all the cops said was that he made a sudden movement towards his waistband and they shot him they are probably fucked. I am not saying that I blame them or think that they acted inappropriately since I wasn't there and don't know exactly how events unfolded. Even with a 911 call for a robbery saying a gun was involved it puts you on high alert but.....(1) you should always believe a gun is involved until proven otherwise anyway, (2) plenty of bogus "I saw a gun" calls are taken, it's common knowledge that assholes do that to get a faster response and (3) a reach for the waistband could just be to toss evidence (drugs, stolen cash) so it's prudent to see something more (gun handle, "bulge") before shooting.

    Again, I'm not saying they were wrong since I don't know all of the facts but the OP's synopsis doesn't sound good for the police.
     
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    :jj: Very good
     
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    Was the laptop ok?
     
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    thats the risk you take sometimes.
     
  18. Lucky Pierre

    Lucky Pierre Well-Known Member

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    Good post. No one is defending the kid here, but there are other sides to the story.

    The police will do nothing (zero) if you call to simply report a theft other than take the report.

    So many police are so fucking trigger happy. Shoot first (and second and seventh), ask questions later.
     
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    [video=youtube;ifVwpP6AeTU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifVwpP6AeTU[/video]
     
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    Taking a handful of candy or a scarf from a store is one thing. I'm ok with death still but I'd settle for amputation in these circumstances. Taking someone's backpack required some force which takes it from a theft to a robbery.....fuck 'em. My personal, not professional, stance of course.