Why put up with the rioting, traffic, and hate?

Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by SouthernListen, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. SouthernListen

    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    I've heard a lot of stories about dealing with the effects of the riots in urban areas, and the general hate level and annoyances. I gotta ask, other than family ties, what's the appeal exactly? Family ties? A job you can't find elsewhere?

    Metro Atlanta is already about 47% transplants from other states. Any perceived or real income advantages back in NY are more than wiped away by a higher cost of living and higher taxes. Gas is $2.63/gal here now. About 50 cents/gallon less than The Bronx. Energy is cheaper. Food is cheaper. Why do you put up with this? The pastrami?



    Brooklyn NY Most expensive home on zillow under $500,000 Built 1930. $336/sq foot.

    White 48%
    Black 34%
    Latino 19%
    Foreign born residents 37.4%

    LINK to listing http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/961-E-48th-St-Brooklyn-NY-11203/30656732_zpid/
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    Blue Ridge, GA
    98.6% white
    1.4% other
    Most expensive home under $500K on zillow

    LINK to listing http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/160-Doyle-Carder-Pkwy-Blue-Ridge-GA-30513/2106385555_zpid/

    5 acres, $135/sq foot, 5 bedrooms, 4 baths, 3679 square feet
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    Young Harris, GA $399,000 4 br, 4 ba 3750 sq ft, $107/sq ft 3.4 acres

    LINK to listing http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5729-Pine-Crest-Rd-Young-Harris-GA-30582/105407484_zpid/
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    Young Harris is 96.5% white. Population is 94% "white collar". 30.26% of adults have a college degree. 10.6% telecommute.

    If you want something closer in (1 hour or less commute to anywhere in Atlanta if you can avoid the traffic) Canton, GA 90% white, including 22% Hispanic
    $500,000 home here. LINK to listing http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/303-Ewelle-Ct-Canton-GA-30115/68123716_zpid/

    5 br, 5 ba, 3803 sq ft, 1.3 acres $131/sq foot FIVE CAR GARAGE
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  2. smichal

    smichal A1 Dick Game

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    check Hawaii please
     
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    Kool Well-Known Member

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    :dontknow:a job?
     
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    Lemmy Douchebag Extraordinaire Gold

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    I am in agreement but there are the whole group of assholes that feel that if you aren't in a major city then you are a "rube". I prefer a little calm/quiet and a reasonable cost of living.

    My ex-log house on 5.17 acres with outbuildings was $215k in '10. Gorgeous and quiet small town.
     
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    city folk gotta city
     
  6. SouthernListen

    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    I watch some of these "home finder" shows when there's absolutely nothing else on and my wife wants to watch TV. These people will pay tons for real shitholes citing the fact that they want to be able to "walk to things" and "enjoy sidewalk cafes". WTF? A lot of them work from home, too, and could literally live anywhere in the world. They wind up in some 250 year old attic closet in Paris "for the ambiance". "only $700K!"

    There are places to award winning places to eat and sidewalk cafes in my home town. There are butchers, high end groceries, speciality farmers markets selling food from around the world. My suspicion is that when people claim they prefer city life they really mean they need a bar they can stagger home from close by.
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    Snotty My Snothand be strong!!! VIP Gold

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    If your moving to Hot 'Lanta to get away from 'De Blaecks..........Got news for ya'...................
     
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    Lemmy Douchebag Extraordinaire Gold

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    I always figure it is just to be trendy or to be near the clubs/bars. It's not my money so I don't care.

    I am in a nice typical suburb now. It is a quiet area and we have an acre lot. I hate it and would like to be a bit further out but I can live with it for now.
     
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  9. SouthernListen

    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    lol, not IN Atlanta, NEAR Atlanta. Most good jobs and virtually all good job growth occurs outside of Atlanta. It's losing population to the suburbs and exurbs.

    The 98% white in those mountain towns statistic didn't tip you off? I've seen FOUR black people in the grocery store near my home in 10 years, and I can be at Hartsfield international airport in 50 minutes. And it's not the home of the Klan (that's the next town over).

    This one is within 2 miles of me.

    http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4970-Arbor-Hill-Rd-Canton-GA-30115/2106718695_zpid/ $5.7 million, 57 acre horse farm. (and it's not nearly the biggest one in my neighborhood)
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    I'm pretty sure he found a decent paying job here.

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    I had a friend who thought like you. He sold his house in Brooklyn and moved to South Carolina. He sent out pictures of his beautiful house and his 5 acres of land. It looked heavenly. A year later he was back in Brooklyn. Seems that the economy in his area of South Carolina was so bad that he couldn't earn a good enough living to survive even in that cheaper climate. New York City stinks - its crowded, noisy, gritty and full of loudmouths. But NYC, like other large metro areas, is where the money is.
     
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  11. SouthernListen

    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    Oh really?

    Roswell, GA, 30075
    Neighborhood Information




    $430,000
    Median Price3,200 Sq.Ft.
    Median House Size$128
    Median $/Sq.Ft.

    African American2,603(6%)
    Asian or Pacific Islander1,261(3%)
    Indian69
    Mixed Races575(1%)
    Others876(2%)
    White40,847(88%)



    Agriculture/Forestry/Fishing/Hunting/Mining117
    Arts/Entertainment1,548(6%)
    Construction1,253(5%)
    Education/Health3,502(15%)
    Finance/Real Estate2,922(12%)
    Information1,439(6%)
    Manufacturing2,278(9%)
    Others827(3%)
    Professional4,751(20%)
    Public Administration464(2%)
    Retail/Wholesale4,122(17%)
    Transportation/Warehousing926(4%)



    Roswell Income per capita $47,730
    US as a whole $28,051
    New York New York $31,161





    Median household income Roswell 30075 $107,000 Nearby Alpharetta and Cumming are even higher, as they have fewer immigrants living there. Most of my customers are $200K plus types, and their subdivisions stretch as far as the eye can see. Total population of these three suburbs of Atlanta is about 200,000, or a small city.
    Unemployment rate 5.3%


    Atlanta ain't South Carolina. Or even the rest of Georgia. It's 6 million people in a metro area, about half the size of NY, NY. All the homes shown were within an easy 1.5 hour drive and most about an hour from where the good jobs are.

    2014 METRO ATLANTA FORTUNE 1000 HQs

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    Revenues (millions)

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    The Home Depot

    $78,812.00

    50

    United Parcel Service (UPS)

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    The Coca-Cola Company

    $46,854.00

    81

    Delta Air Lines, Inc.

    $37,773.00

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    The Southern Company

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    Genuine Parts Company

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    262

    AGCO Corporation

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    314

    SunTrust Banks, Inc.

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    317

    HD Supply Holdings, Inc.

    $8,569.00

    348

    Coca-Cola Enterprises, Inc.

    $7,657.00

    423

    NCR Corporation

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    436

    Newell Rubbermaid Inc.

    $5,887.00

    446

    *PulteGroup, Inc.

    $5,680.00

    472

    Asbury Automotive Group, Inc.

    $5,339.00

    524

    Axiall Corporation

    $4,666.00

    532

    AGL Resources Inc.

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    547

    Graphic Packaging Holding Company

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    Exide Technologies

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    Carter's, Inc.

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    Global Payments Inc.

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    Equifax Inc.

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    Aaron's, Inc.

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    BlueLinx Holdings, Inc.

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    951

    Acuity Brands, Inc.

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    955

    Ocwen Financial Corporation

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    Some people love the big city.
    Some love the quiet country life
    Some people like the suburbs.
    And others enjoy the prison strife.
     
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    Texas is only for REAL men and Women. So I'd be happy to leave

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    Jayla Ou ai-je l'esprit? Gold

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    The city can be fun if you have no kids and lots-o-cash. Otherwise, meh. I'm glad it's close by to visit though.
     
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    I keep telling you people- move to Vermont or New Hampshire.
     
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    I grew up right outside of NYC in a very favorable commuter city. It took my husband 20 minutes to get to his job and he made a good living.
    Unfortunately the public school system sucked so we moved when my son was 8.
    We went further north, good schools, nice neighborhoods but no jobs that pay $$.
    I would hate to move far from my extended family and friends but you gotta do what you gotta do.
     
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    I have co-workers whose work is based outside Boston, but live up in NH and telecommute three days a week. Ideal if your job and employer allow for it.
     
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    You have to deal with winter and snow, but you'd be amazed how WHITE it is when the snow flies...
     
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    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    My wife's boss lives in a great area of CT and only drives into NYC when he has to for meetings. Her company (corporate financing) is in a nice suburb with plenty of space and good schools. Those not workign there are spread around the country working from their homes. Over half the employees do that.
     
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