YouTube to ban indie labels, charge for music service

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    [h=1]No more Radiohead: YouTube to ban indie labels, charge for music service[/h] Published time: June 17, 2014 20:25
    Edited time: June 18, 2014 15:47


    [​IMG] Reuters / Lucy Nicholson








    Thousands of music videos are expected to soon disappear off of YouTube because the independent record labels behind those artists are not involved in new deals being cut by the Google-owned streaming site.


    YouTube will announce in "a matter of days" that videos on the site featuring recording artists from some independent labels will be blocked, the FT reports. The ban is aimed at forcing the "refusenik" labels into signing licensing agreements with a new service, coming soon from Google.


    When the forthcoming service, YouTube Music Pass, is finally launched later this summer, subscribers are expected to be able to not just stream videos from one of the world’s most popular sites, but back up that content to enjoy later, even when an internet connection isn’t available. This feature is currently offered by competing, pay-to-list music services such as Spotify and Rhapsody, but not YouTube. To get as much, however, customers will have to fork over a small fee, and so far independent labels have refused to agree to the licensing agreements involved.


    Robert Kyncl, YouTube’s head of content and business operations, told the FT that three major record label conglomerates — Universal, Sony and Warner — have all signed up so far. Around 10 percent of the industry is absent from the deal, though, including some top-selling artists who are signed to smaller labels.


    XL Recordings, which boasts a roster of groups such as Sigur Ros and Radiohead, has not signed up, meaning those acts will likely have their videos taken off the site, the FT reported. Also not signed up to YouTube is Domino Records, which hosts Arctic Monkeys, among others.


    “While we wish that we had a 100 percent success rate, we understand that is not likely an achievable goal and therefore it is our responsibility to our users and the industry to launch the enhanced music experience,†Kyncl told FT.


    Independent artists, however, have a problem with what Google has in mind. “YouTube are shooting themselves in the foot with their attempt to strong-arm independent labels into signing up to such low rates,†singer-songwriter Billy Bragg said earlier this month. “They’re in danger of launching a streaming service that lacks the innovative and cutting-edge sounds that independent artists bring.â€


    "Digital aggregation creates power, and now these companies — after years of talking about a big, open Internet future — are finally starting to show when it comes to be tough in negotiations," Forrester Research analyst James McQuivey told NPR recently. "They're willing to use their access point as a source of power."



    But according to Google, their forthcoming service is only intended to help bands. “Our goal is to continue making YouTube an amazing music experience, both as a global platform for fans and artists to connect, and as a revenue source for the music industry,†a Google spokesman in a statement this week. “We are excited that hundreds of major and independent labels are already partnering with us.â€



    Currently, YouTube attracts more than 1 billion viewers each month from around the globe. According to Kyncl, videos will begin being bloked “in a matter of days.â€
     
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    Youtube responds... supposedly the above is all BS.. although it seems like they may allow the bands who do not sign the contract to stay, they just wont allow them to make money off of their views..


    [h=1]Everyone Calm Down. YouTube Is NOT Going To Remove Music Videos[/h] Tuesday, June 17, 2014
    by Ari Herstand
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    Everyone got it wrong. The Financial Times, The Guardian, MusicWeek, The Verge, Bob Lefsetz , The Daily Digest, and, yes, Digital Music News (sorry Paul).
    It just goes to show, that a sensationalist headline is too good to pass up. And yes, if YouTube was going to rip down every video containing music that was not signed up to their new Spotify-esque music streaming service, then that WOULD be HUGE news. As it was today.


    Sure, Robert Crookson of the Financial Times got the interview with Robert Kyncl, YouTube’s head of content and business operations, but even he got the story wrong. YouTube has been so secretive up to this point about it’s alleged streaming service (they hadn’t gone on record that it even exists until today) that Crookson interpreted what Kyncl said wrong.


    Note that in Crookson’s article, Kyncl is not quoted anywhere saying “YouTube will be blocking music videos.” Crookson said it. And everyone else repeated it.
    You really think that every video that contains music is going to be ripped down if that song has not been submitted to YouTube’s new music streaming service? That would be a nightmare for YouTube. With lots of room for error.


    In addition to the indie labels holding out, some artists have direct deals with iTunes and distribute their music there and to NO OTHER retailer. Not Spotify. Not Amazon. Not Beats. Just iTunes. But they have tons of music videos on YouTube. There is no way YouTube will remove these artists’ videos for lack of a distribution deal.
    **Update 6/18/14 9:52am – There are millions and millions of videos uploaded by 14 year olds in their bedrooms around the world singing songs they just wrote. Or cover songs they did not obtain the license for. They have not distributed these songs to YouTube Music, iTunes, Spotify or anywhere else. You think YouTube is just going to start banning these users? Ripping down millions of videos from kids? From artists who don’t know better?


    What about the web series built on YouTube with original scores? These scores are also not distributed to YouTube Music (or anywhere else). Gone too?
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    A source very familiar with YouTube Music’s streaming partner agreement, who would like to remain anonymous, told us today:
    [h=3]“With the surrounding text (and other things I’ve read including the partner agreement) I take it to say “We’re blocking videos [from monetization].” When they say “platform” they mean content ID. Saying they’re blocking videos from YouTube doesn’t make any logical sense to YouTube as a platform. One thing I’ve noticed from working with them is they tend to use a lot of insider language when trying to communicate with the masses. It’s very confusing.”[/h] ​
    This source explained that the “account” they refer to is the CMS account you get from YouTube when you become an approved partner of their video monetization program and the account partners use to manage content ID claims. Since the streaming service and content ID will be managed under the same partner agreement, you must agree to both.
    [h=2]So, monetization will be shut down from videos that contain music that has not been submitted to YouTube’s music streaming service.[/h] It’s well documented that YouTube’s proposed royalty rate for independent labels and musicians on its pending music streaming service is horribly unbalanced. Independent music licensing company Merlin’s CEO, Charles Caldas, mentioned at the AIM Music Connected conference in London on April 30th:
    [h=3]“The ironic thing is that the service that pays the least is the service that’s the most well funded and run by the biggest company in the world: their figures are by far the worst, whether you measure them on a per-stream basis or a per-user basis.”[/h] ​
    [​IMG] 19 Label Organizations Speak Out Against YouTube
    YouTube has refused to negotiate with independent labels and is going to pay them a horrible rate. What happened to “don’t be evil?”
    [​IMG] Indie Label Organizations Seek Government Intervention Against YouTube
    **Update 6/18/14 3:55PM - We will update this as we receive more information from Google.